Friday 31 May 2013

Re: [pakgrid] Reverse Metering + Solar Panels

 

hi Aqil,
 
bookish solutions ,,already been proposed and impleneted in various parts of the world...
 
Difficult for Paksitan to implement such strategies, bcz of monoplostic nature of Electricty market..
 
free competition is needed first,  then the plans can be implemented ..
 
Also there r numerous plans to curb load shedding  *incl u mentioned* , but as i said , first n foremost , free market and free playing in Electricty market mechanism is MUST,.,
 
br
 
Mubbashir Ali
From: Aqil Sajjad <aqil_sajjad@yahoo.ca>
To: pakgrid@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 30 May 2013, 18:37
Subject: Re: [pakgrid] Reverse Metering + Solar Panels
 
Someone just told me that in some parts of India, they have installed circuit breakers that trip when the load in a locality goes above a certain limit determined on the basis of the number of families living there. As a result, where there is excessive theft or where people try to run unapproved commercial/industrial centers, the system trips, making such theft etc impossible. I have googled but did not find anything on this. Does anyone knowif this is true or if something along these lines is viable?
 
If so, this could be part of the solution in Pakistan as well. At a time of emergency, there should also be limits on how much load households should be allowed to use. We do tend to use a lot more air conditioning and lighting than we need to. Sometimes one enters an office and after a few minutes, one starts shivering. It's is absolutely crazy. Better ventilation and design of houses and offices can also significantly reduce the need for air conditioning.
 
Another solution could be to change office timings in summer. Since sun rise in summer is between 4-5 am, office hours should be something like 6 am to 2 pm. In the earlier part of the day, the temperature is better and that could allow people to work in their offices without too much air conditioning. The late afternoon/early evening would then be available for people to go out for shopping etc, and this might make the traders more willing to close their shops before sunset without being worried about the loss of business.
 
All this may sound too drastic but extraordinary crises call for extraordinary measures.
 
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To: PakGrid
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [pakgrid] Reverse Metering + Solar Panels

 
Salaamun Alaikum
 
Thank you all for your precious participation/ comments:
 
Reference Email:  (PakGrid <pakgrid@yahoogroups.com>)
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The solar panel system can be more useful, if we use 'Reverse Metering' system:
  • Govt. may help people buying solar panels on soft loans.
  • Govt. may recommend/approve solar system specifications to be used.
  • Distribution Companies can launch 'Reverse Metering' system. Excess energy, in the day, at end user premises may be accepted by respective grid. When end user gets advantage of energy units this will make the project feasible. End user will try to install more and more solar panel at its premises and end user will try to maintain it in a good state to get advantage of free energy.
  • Generation Companies may generate more energy in the night and less in the day. Because more solar energy is available in the day.
  • End user will not need a big battery bank for storage for night use.
Is this workable? What are your comments?
 
 
Summary of Comments:
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Musstanser Tinauli  <musstanser@gmail.com>
·         Train People towards energy conservation
·         Green energy production
Muhammad Asif, New Zealand   <choudhry.asif@gmail.com>
 
·           I wish that Reverse Metering idea move forward and red tapes removed.
 
Habib Rehman <habib@buraq.com>
 
·         System already in place in Australia.
·         It is workable solution that solves energy crisis in days.
 
Naveed Arshad <naveedarshad@gmail.com>
·         System already implemented in many countries.
·         Problem is not the technology but the willingness of the Government.
·         Best part is the environmental friendliness.
·         Nowhere in energy policy we see environmental friendliness as a criteria for measuring a technology.
·         The proposal is implementable giving way to a free market where everyone can PRODUCE electricity.
Waqqas Akhtar <waqqas_akhtar@yahoo.com> 
·       EU have enacted "feed-in tariff" laws that require electric utility companies to make payments to solar-power producers, be they commercial power plants or private homes
·      Such tariffs have turned Germany, France and Spain into solar power leaders.
·       To encourage people to buy and install solar panels, Germany buys solar-produced energy at a fixed price guaranteed to make a profit.
Khawaja Hammad <hammadrs@hotmail.com>
·         Even Govt. takes initiative on first two points it can make a huge difference.
·         Reverse Metering can add lot of administrative and operational hassles. Although it is doable but not in the current scenario.
Adnan Ashraf <mrkaa662@gmail.com>
·         No battery banks are required for Grid-Tied systems, this system really pays back.
·         But, Grid-Tied or Grid-Interactive systems don't work in the case of power outage.
·         Its already implemented in Australia.
http://www.energymatters.com.au/renewable-energy/solar-power/grid-connected-systems/
Asif Kidwai <kidwai99@yahoo.com> 
·         Pakistan needs to take the quality of its grid into account when planning distributed generation (and reverse metering).
Mohammad Asad <asad@buraq.com> from Buraq Integrated Solutions
·         Pakistan Engineering Council (PEC) has already implemented On-Grid Solar Power System. http://www.pec.org.pk/JICA_projBrief.aspx
·         The new energy meters which are currently being installed are supporting Reverse-Metering.
Ali Mansoor Khawaja <ali_mansoor_kh@yahoo.com> 
·         I think it is a great idea. But instead of Govt. motivate public.
·         End up not having to deal with wapda at all.
 
 

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Re: [pakgrid] Exylent - National Robotics Workshop

 

Regarding the example of Gates and Jobs, I think it is not that they understood technology as much as they understood how it could be used. This latter skill is not what is usually tested in technical courses. The former is, and that is why top-scorers often have trouble thinking "out of the box".

Great things happen when the left and the right halves work together. Apple is the perfect example. Our education focuses too much on one half and hence our graduates mostly end up serving those who have managed to combine the two.

Best regards,

Waqar


On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Ayaz <ayaza75@hotmail.com> wrote:
 

well, let's say that there is little wrong with scoring high in early years - although many of those who belong to this group counter others having of not scoring high and hence the reason for the criticism.

However, the infatuation of Pakistanis with world breaking scores on the O-level, Matrick, A-level, university etc is totally misplaced. Just because someone can spend extraordinary amount of time doing one thing should not a means to think of them at high achiever. This is premitive thinking in our education.

Although this example has been given repeatedly, just think of 2 of the leading men who changed the recent modern world as we know it. Bill gates and Steve Jobs. Gates was a good student not great and Jobs was average according to his scores. Both of them understood technology more than perhaps all the computer scientists put together. Some fruit for thought for excluding someone.

Ayaz



On 30/05/2013 12:43 PM, Asif Mufti wrote:
 
Shortlisting is accomplished when Rs 20,000 is set as a fee. 

From: Ayaz <ayaza75@hotmail.com>
To: pakgrid@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [pakgrid] Exylent - National Robotics Workshop

Well perhaps they need to shortlist and by restricting it to the 70% plus may be fine in this case.

However, as a whole, we certainly do need to get away from this notion of A-toppers centered programs/focus.

Many of them are not that bright to put it plainly though some may be so.

ayaz




On 30/05/2013 10:23 AM, Asif Mufti wrote:
What is the logic behind 70% minimum marks required to attend the class? Who says creativity starts from >= 70% of marks or hidden talent exist only in this select group? 
 

From: Dr. Arshad Ali <arshad.ali@seecs.edu.pk>
To: alumni <alumni@seecs.edu.pk>; pakgrid <pakgrid@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 3:12 PM
Subject: [pakgrid] Exylent - National Robotics Workshop

 

EXploring Young LEaders' Natural Talent
ExYLeNT
24 June - 5 July

EXYLENT is an Exclusive 2-week workshop for bright students on 'Innovation and Creativity', using LEGO Mindstorm Robotic Kits.

Registration is Open : Click here to register or http://goo.gl/2qIU9
Registration Fee : Rs. 20,000/-    (Registration fee should be paid through check, Pay Order, or Bank draft in favor of 'SEECS Consultancy Fund'. Send to: SEECS (Exylent Office), NUST, H-12, Islamabad)
Required : 2 passport sized photos must be submitted along with the registration fee.
 
Last date of registration :  Jun 10, 2013 (Limited Seats available)
Eligibility : Matric/FSc/O-A levels or below. (Minimum age limit is 8 years)
Accommodation : Limited accommodation will be available to applicants residing outside Islamabad/Rawalpindi area. Additional fees apply.
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[pakgrid] Opportunity at CASE (Not for the faint at heart!)

 


Faculty Positions in Department of Electrical ComputerEngineering



Center for Advanced Studies in Engineering (CASE) is lookingfor highly motivated individuals who would join the dynamic faculty of Electrical &Computer Engineering asAssoc/Asst Professor.

 

Assoc / Asst Professor

 

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Center forAdvanced Studies in Engineering (CASE) was founded in 2001to bridge the technology gap between Pakistan and the developed world. CASE isstriving to usher an era of progress and prosperity by human resourcedevelopment in Engineering, Information Technology, Business and EngineeringManagement. CASE is proud to be a premier institution of higher education and has one of the largest graduate engineering programs in Pakistan. Ithas gathered best minds from industry and academia aspart of its faculty, who groom the future engineers andmanagers of Pakistan through academic, research &development efforts.

 

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Re: [pakgrid] Exylent - National Robotics Workshop

 

Yes I agree, we removed the condition for 70%, Any interested child can apply.

Best regards


On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Ayaz <ayaza75@hotmail.com> wrote:
Well perhaps they need to shortlist and by restricting it to the 70% plus may be fine in this case.

However, as a whole, we certainly do need to get away from this notion of A-toppers centered programs/focus.

Many of them are not that bright to put it plainly though some may be so.

ayaz





On 30/05/2013 10:23 AM, Asif Mufti wrote:
What is the logic behind 70% minimum marks required to attend the class? Who says creativity starts from >= 70% of marks or hidden talent exist only in this select group? 
 

From: Dr. Arshad Ali <arshad.ali@seecs.edu.pk>
To: alumni <alumni@seecs.edu.pk>; pakgrid <pakgrid@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 3:12 PM
Subject: [pakgrid] Exylent - National Robotics Workshop

 

EXploring Young LEaders' Natural Talent
ExYLeNT
24 June - 5 July

EXYLENT is an Exclusive 2-week workshop for bright students on 'Innovation and Creativity', using LEGO Mindstorm Robotic Kits.

Registration is Open : Click here to register or http://goo.gl/2qIU9
Registration Fee : Rs. 20,000/-    (Registration fee should be paid through check, Pay Order, or Bank draft in favor of 'SEECS Consultancy Fund'. Send to: SEECS (Exylent Office), NUST, H-12, Islamabad)
Required : 2 passport sized photos must be submitted along with the registration fee.
 
Last date of registration :  Jun 10, 2013 (Limited Seats available)
Eligibility : Matric/FSc/O-A levels or below. (Minimum age limit is 8 years)
Accommodation : Limited accommodation will be available to applicants residing outside Islamabad/Rawalpindi area. Additional fees apply.



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PhD, Assistant Professor
School of Electrical Eng. Computer Science
National University of Sciences Technology
Islamabad, Pakistan

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