On 11/28/2012 10:29 AM, Usman Bukhary wrote:
> Interesting discussion ,
> i just want to add why just the higher education need to adapt ,
> our primary and secondary education badly needed this as well,
> if khan academy (http://www.khanacademy.org/) lectures used in
> supervised learning environment as it is happening in many parts of the
> world , can significantly change the quality of our education , here is
> an interesting article about it
> (http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/07/ff_khan/)
totaly agree, his TED talk is even more inspiring. Infact, Sebastian
Thrun, who started udacity and the entire MOOC's paradigm was blown away
by the potential of Khan academy when he listened as a spectator at that
TED (he was presenting the small matter of the first autonomous car by
Google at the same TED).
> Bad learning habits (spoon feeding , Ratta system , lack of self study)
> learned in childhood are not easy to un-learn in higher education .
>
> Thanks,
Affan
>
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> *From:* Qasim Sheikh <qs358@yahoo.com>
> *To:* "pakgrid@yahoogroups.com" <pakgrid@yahoogroups.com>
> *Cc:* "affan.syed.usc@gmail.com" <affan.syed.usc@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:53 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [pakgrid] How the Higher Ed community needs to adapt, and
> quickly
>
>
> Dear Affan,
> I had lengthy discussions with FAST-NU decision makers on this
> subject a few months back but did not make much headway.
> However, luckily I used Algorithms course from Stanford at SEECS, NUST
> and now thanks to management of Air University I am teaching "small
> Networks: Friends, Money, and
> Bytes" https://www.coursera.org/course/friendsmoneybytes from Princeton
> at AU. I am teaching it as a graduate level course. I replay lectures
> from the course in class. Sometimes I have to give additional lectures
> to prepare students with background material. I stop the lecture in the
> middle and explain concepts if needed. We do the same home-works and
> quizzes in class. We have not reached the point where students listen
> to lectures before the class and then class is used for solving problems
> and discussing what students can not understand, but this is a start. I
> asked students if they wanted me to make slides myself from Princeton
> video lectures and deliver my version. Students are quite happy with
> original video lectures from Princeton. Similarly, in my information
> coding course I used material from Udacity's course on statistics to
> teach students Bayesian analysis. I gave homework from udacity course
> and told students that they can copy the solution as long as they
> understand it. This homework was followed by an in class quiz. My
> expectation is that students will start self learning process from these
> courses.
>
> I have given graduate students a list of 6 courses from udacity and
> coursera with the offer that if they bring completion certificates I
> will guide them in selecting their MS thesis problem.
>
> The change we need is not likely to come from "Rector's office". They
> just don't want to go through the effort needed for the change. Why
> should they? List of applicants to 1st semester is 4 to 5 times the
> number of seats, university keeps increasing tuition and fee to keep its
> operations profitable, demand for cs graduates worldwide is increasing.
> Why rock the boat when everything is calm?
>
> I would recommend that as a start you start using course material from
> these courses and force students you are advising for MS or Ph. D.
> theses to take relevant courses. I also think that industry can play a
> big role here by giving preference to candidates who bring completion
> certificates from relevant courses on coursera, udacity, MITx, Berkeleyx
> etc. This will get student's attention.
>
> With Regards
> Qasim
> pk.linkedin.com/pub/qasim-sheikh/0/250/712
> <http://pk.linkedin.com/pub/qasim-sheikh/0/250/712>
> +923008540838 (mob)
>
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> *From:* Affan S <affan.syed.usc@gmail.com>
> *To:* pakgrid@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:25 PM
> *Subject:* [pakgrid] How the Higher Ed community needs to adapt, and
> quickly
>
>
> Dear all,
> Since the start of the coursera and then the Udacity experiment, I
> have been extremely vocal at my institution (FAST-NU) to consider
> how this new paradigm on MOOC's will affect us. Here is an amazing
> article that is making the case that we might be like the newspaper
> industry that new that the digital age was coming but was lazy not
> to adapt in time and caused several great papers to collapse.
>
> http://www.shirky.com/weblog/2012/11/napster-udacity-and-the-academy/
>
> My favorite quote from the article is "First, the people running the
> old system don't notice the change. When they do, they assume it's
> minor. Then that it's a niche. Then a fad. And by the time they
> understand that the world has actually changed, they've squandered
> most of the time they had to adapt."
>
> So true, and we (the people in higher education) need to be able to
> adapt to this vision and brainstorm solutions. Lets not play
> catch-the-west here, for once we are at an even keel with them and
> can ourselves generate a new paradigm.
>
> Affan
>
> http://www.isb.nu.edu.pk/affan/
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