Wednesday 23 January 2013

[bs-telecom] Digest Number 1981

13 New Messages

Digest #1981
1a
Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA by "Muhammad Hasan" hsn.inbox
1b
1c
Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA by "Adnan Ahsan" adnan.ahsan@ymail.com
1d
1e
Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA by "ReHan Azeem" rehan.glaswegian
1f
Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA by "Hassan Kamal" hussan_pk_2010
1g
Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA by "Yahoo! Inc. Copyright 2012©" engr_saud1
1h
Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA by "Umair bin Tariq" umbintariq
2a
Re: Query || PMP or CAPM (Information Required) by "ReHan Azeem" rehan.glaswegian
5
Sharing || Germany Visa -- Tips by "Umair bin Tariq" umbintariq

Messages

Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:47 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Muhammad Hasan" hsn.inbox

dear jamshed u mean 26k saudi riyal..? your company did not offer u dat or you bought it urself... kindly clear it.. and what is the max benifit of this engineering visa there..? can we convert it into transferrable after buying any category.. your response is anxiously awaited..

with best..,
Hasan .. telecom engineer from iqra university karachi.

________________________________
From: wasim wasimbhati@yahoo.com>
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 12:18 AM
Subject: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA


 
Dear Jamshaid,

i have just bought engineers VISA which is Electrical engineer which costs me around 26000 SR in total, so here is the number of the agent who is trustworthy but still i will not take the responsibility of anything ok because u know now a days no one would like to be a guarantee r so better call him and discuss with him Best of luck....

Waheed Jan
+966563400004

--- In bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com, jamshaid ishaq wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Asalam Alikum All,
> Is any one know about the trusted agents in Khi who deals in Azad Visa for Suadia Arabia. (Computer Engineering Category).
>
> Regards,Jamshaid0345-2649533
>

Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:50 am (PST) . Posted by:

"MB" smurtaza81pk

Its a Azaad Visa.He must have bought it himself.The benefits of Azaad Visa are you can work for any employer (freely) its a transferrable iqama.$7000 visa is on higher side.

From: Muhammad Hasan hsn.inbox@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA

 
dear jamshed u mean 26k saudi riyal..? your company did not offer u dat or you bought it urself... kindly clear it.. and what is the max benifit of this engineering visa there..? can we convert it into transferrable after buying any category.. your response is anxiously awaited.. with best..,Hasan .. telecom engineer from iqra university karachi.

From: wasim wasimbhati@yahoo.com>
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 12:18 AM
Subject: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA

 
Dear Jamshaid,i have just bought engineers VISA which is Electrical engineer which costs me around 26000 SR in total, so here is the number of the agent who is trustworthy but still i will not take the responsibility of anything ok because u know now a days no one would like to be a guarantee r so better call him and discuss with him Best of luck....Waheed Jan+966563400004--- In mailto:bs-telecom%40yahoogroups.com, jamshaid ishaq wrote:>> > > > > > > > > Asalam Alikum All,> Is any one know about the trusted agents in Khi who deals in Azad Visa for Suadia Arabia. (Computer Engineering Category).> > Regards,Jamshaid0345-2649533>

Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:21 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Adnan Ahsan" adnan.ahsan@ymail.com

Dear All my pakistani brothers,

I have been working in KSA now for more than 1 half years and what i have come up with AZAD VISA i will mention below. All the facts are bitter but truth so please if you want to purchase the visa you must consider all these points.

Right now due to high rising of unemployment among the young Saudis govt here is trying its level best to employ saudis rather then foreigners this term here is call saudinization.

so by doing saudinization govt from this new year has applied a new tax on all foreign workers which of 2400 SAR per annum so it means when ever any foreginer whose on work visa or IQAMA you say here in saudia has to pay govt a tax of 2400 sar annually

so now by applying this the major suffering will be to the AZAD Visa guys coz when IQAMA will be renewed by your kafeels they will get 2400riyyal + IQAMA renewal fee + medical card fee + kafeels own fee (which could be any amount depending on your kafeel)

secondly the job situation is also not as good as it was 4 years back because govt is trying there best to get saudi's in every departs and organization

thirdly brothers azad visa p aker apko apne rehna se le ker khane tuk ka intezam khud hi kerna hota hy or mind it yahan p houses on rents are very expensive.

brothers yeah sub options apne mind me rakh ker AZAD VISA KA decision lena other vise apne maa baap ki hallal ki kamai ko barbad mut kerna.

ALLAH HAFIZ

Regards
Adnan Ahsan      

________________________________
From: MB smurtaza81pk@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA


 
Its a Azaad Visa.He must have bought it himself.The benefits of Azaad Visa are you can work for any employer (freely) its a transferrable iqama.$7000 visa is on higher side.

From: Muhammad Hasan hsn.inbox@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA

 
dear jamshed u mean 26k saudi riyal..? your company did not offer u dat or you bought it urself... kindly clear it.. and what is the max benifit of this engineering visa there..? can we convert it into transferrable after buying any category.. your response is anxiously awaited.. with best.., Hasan .. telecom engineer from iqra university karachi.

From: wasim wasimbhati@yahoo.com>
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 12:18 AM
Subject: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA

 
Dear Jamshaid, i have just bought engineers VISA which is Electrical engineer which costs me around 26000 SR in total, so here is the number of the agent who is trustworthy but still i will not take the responsibility of anything ok because u know now a days no one would like to be a guarantee r so better call him and discuss with him Best of luck.... Waheed Jan +966563400004 --- In mailto:bs-telecom%40yahoogroups.com, jamshaid ishaq wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Asalam Alikum All, > Is any one know about the trusted agents in Khi who deals in Azad Visa for Suadia Arabia. (Computer Engineering Category). > > Regards,Jamshaid0345-2649533 >

Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:13 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"MB" smurtaza81pk

Thanks for the realistic and inside view.As you know that Telecom market is already saturated inside Pakistan therefore there are no jobs in Pakistan.The only stable job I see in Pakistan these days is banking.Banks are still getting lot of foreign investment from overseas specially UAE etc. 

________________________________
From: Adnan Ahsan adnan.ahsan@ymail.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA

 
Dear All my pakistani brothers,I have been working in KSA now for more than 1 half years and what i have come up with AZAD VISA i will mention below. All the facts are bitter but truth so please if you want to purchase the visa you must consider all these points.Right now due to high rising of unemployment among the young Saudis govt here is trying its level best to employ saudis rather then foreigners this term here is call saudinization.so by doing saudinization govt from this new year has applied a new tax on all foreign workers which of 2400 SAR per annum so it means when ever any foreginer whose on work visa or IQAMA you say here in saudia has to pay govt a tax of 2400 sar annually

so now by applying this the major suffering will be to the AZAD Visa guys coz when IQAMA will be renewed by your kafeels they will get 2400riyyal + IQAMA renewal fee + medical card fee + kafeels own fee (which could be any amount depending on your kafeel)

secondly the job situation is also not as good as it was 4 years back because govt is trying there best to get saudi's in every departs and organization

thirdly brothers azad visa p aker apko apne rehna se le ker khane tuk ka intezam khud hi kerna hota hy or mind it yahan p houses on rents are very expensive.

brothers yeah sub options apne mind me rakh ker AZAD VISA KA decision lena other vise apne maa baap ki hallal ki kamai ko barbad mut kerna.

ALLAH HAFIZ

Regards
Adnan Ahsan      

________________________________
From: MB smurtaza81pk@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA

 
Its a Azaad Visa.He must have bought it himself.The benefits of Azaad Visa are you can work for any employer (freely) its a transferrable iqama.$7000 visa is on higher side.

________________________________
From: Muhammad Hasan hsn.inbox@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA

 
dear jamshed u mean 26k saudi riyal..? your company did not offer u dat or you bought it urself... kindly clear it.. and what is the max benifit of this engineering visa there..? can we convert it into transferrable after buying any category.. your response is anxiously awaited.. with best.., Hasan .. telecom engineer from iqra university karachi.

________________________________
From: wasim wasimbhati@yahoo.com>
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 12:18 AM
Subject: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA

 
Dear Jamshaid, i have just bought engineers VISA which is Electrical engineer which costs me around 26000 SR in total, so here is the number of the agent who is trustworthy but still i will not take the responsibility of anything ok because u know now a days no one would like to be a guarantee r so better call him and discuss with him Best of luck.... Waheed Jan +966563400004 --- In mailto:bs-telecom%40yahoogroups.com, jamshaid ishaq wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Asalam Alikum All, > Is any one know about the trusted agents in Khi who deals in Azad Visa for Suadia Arabia. (Computer Engineering Category). > > Regards,Jamshaid0345-2649533 >

Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:13 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"ReHan Azeem" rehan.glaswegian

Dear Adnan,

You are right but many people are still getting the visa and still able to find a good job in a period of 3-5 months time in Saudia.

Regards
Rehan

________________________________
From: Adnan Ahsan adnan.ahsan@ymail.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 22 January 2013, 23:17
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA


 
Dear All my pakistani brothers,

I have been working in KSA now for more than 1 half years and what i have come up with AZAD VISA i will mention below. All the facts are bitter but truth so please if you want to purchase the visa you must consider all these points.

Right now due to high rising of unemployment among the young Saudis govt here is trying its level best to employ saudis rather then foreigners this term here is call saudinization.

so by doing saudinization govt from this new year has applied a new tax on all foreign workers which of 2400 SAR per annum so it means when ever any foreginer whose on work visa or IQAMA you say here in saudia has to pay govt a tax of 2400 sar annually

so now by applying this the major suffering will be to the AZAD Visa guys coz when IQAMA
will be renewed by your kafeels they will get 2400riyyal + IQAMA renewal fee + medical card fee + kafeels own fee (which could be any amount depending on your kafeel)

secondly the job situation is also not as good as it was 4 years back because govt is trying there best to get saudi's in every departs and organization

thirdly brothers azad visa p aker apko apne rehna se le ker khane tuk ka intezam khud hi kerna hota hy or mind it yahan p houses on rents are very expensive.

brothers yeah sub options apne mind me rakh ker AZAD VISA KA decision lena other vise apne maa baap ki hallal ki kamai ko barbad mut kerna.

ALLAH HAFIZ

Regards
Adnan Ahsan      

________________________________
From: MB smurtaza81pk@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA


 
Its a Azaad Visa.He must have bought it himself.The benefits of Azaad Visa are you can work for any employer (freely) its a transferrable iqama.$7000 visa is on higher side.

From: Muhammad Hasan hsn.inbox@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA

 
dear jamshed u mean 26k saudi riyal..? your company did not offer u dat or you bought it urself... kindly clear it.. and what is the max benifit of this engineering visa there..? can we convert it into transferrable after buying any category.. your response is anxiously awaited.. with best.., Hasan .. telecom engineer from iqra university karachi.

From: wasim wasimbhati@yahoo.com>
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 12:18 AM
Subject: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA

 
Dear Jamshaid, i have just bought engineers VISA which is Electrical engineer which costs me around 26000 SR in total, so here is the number of the agent who is trustworthy but still i will not take the responsibility of anything ok because u know now a days no one would like to be a guarantee r so better call him and discuss with him Best of luck.... Waheed Jan +966563400004 --- In mailto:bs-telecom%40yahoogroups.com, jamshaid ishaq wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Asalam Alikum All, > Is any one know about the trusted agents in Khi who deals in Azad Visa for Suadia Arabia. (Computer Engineering Category). > > Regards,Jamshaid0345-2649533 >

Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:13 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Hassan Kamal" hussan_pk_2010


Aoa Adnan .


Thanks for your kind advice . If i come on Azad Visa , what is the average salary for an Engineer ???? , I am Networking Professional with good market experience , If someone get good salary upto 15 k Sar , then i think he can manage all the expenses , what do you say ?????












Regards
Hassan







To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
From: adnan.ahsan@ymail.com
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 10:17:35 -0800
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA


























Dear All my pakistani brothers,

I have been working in KSA now for more than 1 half years and what i have come up with AZAD VISA i will mention below. All the facts are bitter but truth so please if you want to purchase the visa you must consider all these points.

Right now due to high rising of unemployment among the young Saudis govt here is trying its level best to employ saudis rather then foreigners this term here is call saudinization.

so by doing saudinization govt from this new year has applied a new tax on all foreign workers which of 2400 SAR per annum so it means when ever any foreginer whose on work visa or IQAMA you say here in saudia has to pay govt a tax of 2400 sar annually


so now by applying this the major suffering will be to the AZAD Visa guys coz when IQAMA
will be renewed by your kafeels they will get 2400riyyal + IQAMA renewal fee + medical card fee + kafeels own fee (which could be any amount depending on your kafeel)

secondly the job situation is also not as good as it was 4 years back because govt is trying there best to get saudi's in every departs and organization

thirdly brothers azad visa p aker apko apne rehna se le ker khane tuk ka intezam khud hi kerna hota hy or mind it yahan p houses on rents are very expensive.

brothers yeah sub options apne mind me rakh ker AZAD VISA KA decision lena other vise apne maa baap ki hallal ki kamai ko barbad mut kerna.

ALLAH HAFIZ

Regards
Adnan Ahsan

From: MB smurtaza81pk@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA
























Its a Azaad Visa.He must have bought it himself.The benefits of Azaad Visa are you can work for any employer (freely) its a transferrable iqama.$7000 visa is on higher side.





From: Muhammad Hasan hsn.inbox@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA




dear jamshed u mean 26k saudi riyal..? your company did not offer u dat or you bought it urself... kindly clear it.. and what is the max benifit of this engineering visa there..? can we convert it into transferrable after buying any category.. your response is anxiously awaited.. with best.., Hasan .. telecom engineer from iqra university karachi.







From: wasim wasimbhati@yahoo.com>
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 12:18 AM
Subject: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA




Dear Jamshaid, i have just bought engineers VISA which is Electrical engineer which costs me around 26000 SR in total, so here is the number of the agent who is trustworthy but still i will not take the responsibility of anything ok because u know now a days no one would like to be a guarantee r so better call him and discuss with him Best of luck.... Waheed Jan +966563400004 --- In mailto:bs-telecom%40yahoogroups.com, jamshaid ishaq wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Asalam Alikum All, > Is any one know about the trusted agents in Khi who deals in Azad Visa for Suadia Arabia. (Computer Engineering Category). > >
Regards,Jamshaid0345-2649533 >



























Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:15 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Yahoo! Inc. Copyright 2012©" engr_saud1

Well Said !
Plus if you end up getting a Job with moderate salary (6~10K SAR) . It will take years , for you to recover even the Azad Visa Cost . 

________________________________
From: Adnan Ahsan adnan.ahsan@ymail.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA


 
Dear All my pakistani brothers,

I have been working in KSA now for more than 1 half years and what i have come up with AZAD VISA i will mention below. All the facts are bitter but truth so please if you want to purchase the visa you must consider all these points.

Right now due to high rising of unemployment among the young Saudis govt here is trying its level best to employ saudis rather then foreigners this term here is call saudinization.

so by doing saudinization govt from this new year has applied a new tax on all foreign workers which of 2400 SAR per annum so it means when ever any foreginer whose on work visa or IQAMA you say here in saudia has to pay govt a tax of 2400 sar annually

so now by applying this the major suffering will be to the AZAD Visa guys coz when IQAMA
will be renewed by your kafeels they will get 2400riyyal + IQAMA renewal fee + medical card fee + kafeels own fee (which could be any amount depending on your kafeel)

secondly the job situation is also not as good as it was 4 years back because govt is trying there best to get saudi's in every departs and organization

thirdly brothers azad visa p aker apko apne rehna se le ker khane tuk ka intezam khud hi kerna hota hy or mind it yahan p houses on rents are very expensive.

brothers yeah sub options apne mind me rakh ker AZAD VISA KA decision lena other vise apne maa baap ki hallal ki kamai ko barbad mut kerna.

ALLAH HAFIZ

Regards
Adnan Ahsan      

________________________________
From: MB smurtaza81pk@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA


 
Its a Azaad Visa.He must have bought it himself.The benefits of Azaad Visa are you can work for any employer (freely) its a transferrable iqama.$7000 visa is on higher side.

From: Muhammad Hasan hsn.inbox@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA

 
dear jamshed u mean 26k saudi riyal..? your company did not offer u dat or you bought it urself... kindly clear it.. and what is the max benifit of this engineering visa there..? can we convert it into transferrable after buying any category.. your response is anxiously awaited.. with best.., Hasan .. telecom engineer from iqra university karachi.

From: wasim wasimbhati@yahoo.com>
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 12:18 AM
Subject: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA

 
Dear Jamshaid, i have just bought engineers VISA which is Electrical engineer which costs me around 26000 SR in total, so here is the number of the agent who is trustworthy but still i will not take the responsibility of anything ok because u know now a days no one would like to be a guarantee r so better call him and discuss with him Best of luck.... Waheed Jan +966563400004 --- In mailto:bs-telecom%40yahoogroups.com, jamshaid ishaq wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Asalam Alikum All, > Is any one know about the trusted agents in Khi who deals in Azad Visa for Suadia Arabia. (Computer Engineering Category). > > Regards,Jamshaid0345-2649533 >

Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:29 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Umair bin Tariq" umbintariq

Many Thanks Adnan for your Post.
We really need such advices/suggestions from experienced professionals for
our youngsters.

Best Regards,
Umair bin Tariq.

On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Adnan Ahsan adnan.ahsan@ymail.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Dear All my pakistani brothers,
>
> I have been working in KSA now for more than 1 half years and what i have
> come up with AZAD VISA i will mention below. All the facts are bitter but
> truth so please if you want to purchase the visa you must consider all
> these points.
>
> Right now due to high rising of unemployment among the young Saudis govt
> here is trying its level best to employ saudis rather then foreigners this
> term here is call saudinization.
>
> so by doing saudinization govt from this new year has applied a new tax on
> all foreign workers which of 2400 SAR per annum so it means when ever any
> foreginer whose on work visa or IQAMA you say here in saudia has to pay
> govt a tax of 2400 sar annually
>
>
> so now by applying this the major suffering will be to the AZAD Visa guys
> coz when IQAMA will be renewed by your kafeels they will get 2400riyyal +
> IQAMA renewal fee + medical card fee + kafeels own fee (which could be any
> amount depending on your kafeel)
>
> secondly the job situation is also not as good as it was 4 years back
> because govt is trying there best to get saudi's in every departs and
> organization
>
> thirdly brothers azad visa p aker apko apne rehna se le ker khane tuk ka
> intezam khud hi kerna hota hy or mind it yahan p houses on rents are very
> expensive.
>
> brothers yeah sub options apne mind me rakh ker AZAD VISA KA decision lena
> other vise apne maa baap ki hallal ki kamai ko barbad mut kerna.
>
> ALLAH HAFIZ
>
> Regards
> Adnan Ahsan
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* MB smurtaza81pk@yahoo.com>
> *To:* "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 22, 2013 8:49 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA
>
>
> Its a Azaad Visa.He must have bought it himself.The benefits of Azaad Visa
> are you can work for any employer (freely) its a transferrable iqama.$7000
> visa is on higher side.
>
> *From:* Muhammad Hasan hsn.inbox@yahoo.com>
> *To:* "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 21, 2013 3:49 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA
>
> dear jamshed u mean 26k saudi riyal..? your company did not offer u dat or
> you bought it urself... kindly clear it.. and what is the max benifit of
> this engineering visa there..? can we convert it into transferrable after
> buying any category.. your response is anxiously awaited.. with best..,
> Hasan .. telecom engineer from iqra university karachi.
>
>
> *From:* wasim wasimbhati@yahoo.com>
> *To:* bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Monday, January 21, 2013 12:18 AM
> *Subject:* [bs-telecom] Re: Query || Azad Visa for KSA
>
> Dear Jamshaid, i have just bought engineers VISA which is Electrical
> engineer which costs me around 26000 SR in total, so here is the number of
> the agent who is trustworthy but still i will not take the responsibility
> of anything ok because u know now a days no one would like to be a
> guarantee r so better call him and discuss with him Best of luck.... Waheed
> Jan +966563400004 --- In mailto:bs-telecom%40yahoogroups.com ,
> jamshaid ishaq wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Asalam Alikum All, > Is any one
> know about the trusted agents in Khi who deals in Azad Visa for Suadia
> Arabia. (Computer Engineering Category). > > Regards,Jamshaid0345-2649533 >
>
>
>
>

Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:47 am (PST) . Posted by:

"ReHan Azeem" rehan.glaswegian

Dear Khurram

Thanks for the information. Yes my Degree counts more PDUs, but need to study PMBOK or anyother book before going for an exam. 
Even I have heard the book is changing and new course is going to be implemented from July 2013 ? Am I right ?
 
Thanks
Rehan

________________________________
From: Khurram Naveed cknaveed@gmail.com>
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 21 January 2013, 22:08
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || PMP or CAPM (Information Required)


 
You dont have to submit any fee for application unless you want to become a PMI member before taking the exam, submit your application directly without becoming a member, in this case if your app is rejected you can feel safe about that 100$

also you need 4500 work hours on different projects & 35 hours of teaching I guess but your degree has way more than 35 hours doesnt it ?

Regards

Khurram Naveed

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:34 PM, ReHan Azeem rehan.glaswegian@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

qualify for PMP Exam as my experience counts for the PMP exam or still I need more experience to qualify for the exam? I heard they require minimum 2000 hours experience on projects? Even heard they audit the application for the exam and if not suitable they can deny, referring to losing 100$ out of 405$ you submit for your application fee.

Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:03 am (PST) . Posted by:

"SHAFFAY KHAN" himayat_pma

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Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:13 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Yahoo Account Alert" khan_nasir45

Salam
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Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:14 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Umair bin Tariq" umbintariq

Dear All,
I'm forwarding the below mail to this group just for the sake of your
information.
It might be helpful for anybody planning to target university/ies in
Germany.

Best Regards,
Umair bin Tariq.

P.S. I personally don't have any experience of visiting Germany. The below
mail is Mr. Imad's experience. Thanks to him for sharing this with us.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Imad Khurram
Date: Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [FutureFAST] Help required for applying Visa
To: FutureFAST@yahoogroups.com

**

*Study and Visa guide for Master Study in Germany*

Aslam U Alaikum everybody. I�m creating this forum to help the students
planning to do Master�s in Germany. I�ll be posting my experience as well
as the information I collected. The main purpose of this post is to help
the new students about the whole procedure. I�m trying my best to add all
information. It is also my request to other senior students to correct it
where possible.
In this post I�m going to divide whole procedure into different sections.
As my personal experience don�t go for consultancy. The application
procedure for Germany is very simple and straight. So as my sincere advice
to you is, don�t waste your money.

*Errors and Omissions accepted.

*Section 1: Pre Application.*
First of all you have to visit DAAD website. Search for all the courses you
are interested. Check out the basic requirements and also check the webpage
of that particular program. You can also find the information about other
programs by visiting the mentioned websites. Also you can collect
information by contacting with seniors students or on different yahoo
groups to have up-to-date information.
When you are done with short listing the Universities and Programs, check
out the requirements of that particular program by visiting the webpage of
that program (IELTS/TOEFL, GRE or German Language etc). Ideally you should
have IELTS/TOEFL. GRE is not compulsory in all Universities but compulsory
for some programs/Universities (TUKL, TUHH etc). If you have GRE then it
can give you an advantage for admission, but normally Universities consider
academics only.
International Master Programs are usually in English, but there are some
programs partially in German Language. If the course requires you to have
German Language then you can learn in the nearest GOETHE Institute or any
private institute also.
* *
* *
*Section 2: Application Procedure.*
* *
Normally you have to apply online for a program through particular program
website (not for all the Universities). Following information/documents you
have to provide:

1. Personal Details.
2. Academic Qualifications (Bachelor -> 12th -> 10th).
3. Work Experience (also Internship).
4. Research experience or Publications.
5. Information about recommenders. (Usually 2/3).
6. Statement of Purpose or Letter of Motivation.

As said before some Universities first demand to have online application.
In this online application they short list the candidates for further
procedure, but in some Universities after online application you get a PDF
format application form (filled by you online) and you have to send that
particular application form to University along with required documents.

Now coming to documents you need to be ready.

1. *1. **Transcript and Degree.*

* *
Usually you have to send the transcript of you bachelor transcript/degree.
If you are still studying at time of application then you can send the
result of previous semesters and later you can provide them the full
transcript. (I don�t know what is the time limit because never experienced
it).

- You can attest the Transcript/degree from your University/Notary
Public. Normally Universities demand notarized documents. Some Universities
also demand transcript/degree attested by the University in sealed envelope
(like TU Darmstadt), in this case you have to send as it is recommended.

1. *2. **IELTS/TOEFL/GRE.*

* *
For IELTS you can attest it by Notary Public. For TOEFL/GRE you have to the
send the result through ETS. As I know they charge some amount to send your
result to respective institute. I don�t know the whole procedure because I
had IELTS.

1. *3. **Letter of Recommendation.*

* *
Normally Universities demand 2 Letters of Recommendation. If you are
working in any organization then you should have one Letter by the Employer
and one from the educational institute where you studied your last degree.
If you are still in college, get two recommendation letters from your
professors. Try your best to get it from a professor who has a PhD and not
from a junior lecturer or an assistant professor. It is always recommended
to have the letter neatly formatted , spell checked and printed under the
college letter head or under the letter head of the concerned professor and
don't forget to get the signature and seal of the professor in the letter.
Once the letter is complete, put it an envelope carrying the name of your
college. If that's not available put it in a white envelope, seal it using
good quality glue and take a seal and signature of your professor across
the flap of the envelope. Please avoid using brown, orange or any other
envelopes for recommendation letters.

Following details should be on LOR.

- Full name of Recommender.
- Email and Telephone Contacts.
- Position of recommender.
- Name of University.

*Important**:* Some universities have their own specific format for
recommendation letters. You need to download the form, get it filled by
the recommenders and send it to the university in a sealed envelope. Make
sure you visit the university website or contact the course coordinator to
know exactly how the recommendation letters need to be sent (like in TU
Munchen you fill the online application form and then you get PDF format of
filled application form along with LORs at the end).

1. *4. **Statement of Purpose (also Letter of Motivation/Intent).*

This is the most important part of an application. Spend considerable time
on preparing, refining, and proof reading this document. Think of what will
go through an admission committee members mind if he/she finds silly
spelling or grammatical mistakes in your SOP!! It's a clear indication of
lack of professionalism on your part. Keep it short - within a page or two.
Focus on why you are interested in that particular specialization, how your
BE course has prepared you for this particular specialization (give details
about your electives, projects, seminars etc.,), your long term research
interests, possible research topics for your MS thesis and what are your
plans after completing the master's course.

*Important:* Do not copy readymade SOP's available in the internet. Use it
as a template but blatant copy-paste job makes it easier for the reviewers
spot it and that can ruin your chances!

1. *5. **CV*

* *
Detailed CV (one or two pages) containing your personal information,
educational information (bachelor's and 12th grade is sufficient), work
experience (including any internships), paper presentation in national or
international seminars, publications in reputed journals and your
hobbies/extracurricular activities. In the extracurricular activities
section mention only about the recognition or prizes won at the state,
national or international events. Do not include stuff like won
inter-school dancing competition while in 5th grade or adjudged as the best
singer of our apartment block!!!

1. *6. **Other Documents.*

* *
If you have other documents you can send them along with your application
package, but don�t send useless documents/which are not necessary for
admission decision.

*Section 3: Sending Documents.*
Once you are prepared with your all required documents, send them to the
university/department address via courier. You can use any courier service
which is reliable. In my case sometimes I used DHL and most of times I used
Pakistan Post (Registered Service Only). DHL takes 4-5 working days and
Pakistan Post takes about 15-20 working days. Fortunately I had no problem
with anyone of above. So make one packet and put all your required
documents in an order. There is no specific order for putting your
documents but for guidance you can use the following order. (In descending
order)

1. Application form (University�s/Department)
2. Educational documents(MS-> BS-> Fsc-> etc)
3. Language certificate (everyone which is available or required).
4. Statement of Purpose/Letter of Intent.
5. Experience certificate/Extra qualification certificates.
6. Any extra document which is required.
7. Letters of recommendation.

Usually don�t staple the documents. Only just put them in one big envelop
and go to the respective courier.
Once again use attested copies of your documents and don�t use photocopy of
attested copy. Also don�t send any original document. For any specific
information it is better to be in contact with course co-ordinator for any
extra document or about attestation of documents but normally as I said
before Notary Public is enough (in my case I attested through Notary Public
or through my University). If university asks you sealed documents then do
as requested (in case of TU Darmstadt they ask the attestation of degree by
the respective university and in sealed envelop).
So at this point your documents are ready to send. So send them and keep on
tracing them. Usually university respond you immediately after they receive
your document but sometimes they don�t reply immediately so don�t worry if
your documents are delivered then no need to worry about misplacement here.

*Section 4: Decision Time.*
Normally Universities take 2-3 months for making decision. Sometimes they
make overall decision for all the candidates and sometimes they make
decision after regular time intervals. It is not necessary also that
university makes decision after the deadline. They can make decision before
the deadline also (like TU Darmstadt etc) but at least you have to wait
until the deadline or the date they give you for final results.

*Section 5: Learning German:*
During the decision period you can join any institute to learn German
language because it�s better to have some idea about German language
beforehand so that you would be able to make conversation with people here.
There are many institutes offering German Language courses.

1. GOETHE Institute (Lahore and Karachi)
2. NUML
3. Punjab University.

There are also many other private institutes those offer German courses so
you can join whatever you like.

*Section 6: Admission Decision.*
Once you get admission your university informs you through email/softcopy
of your admission letter and after 15-30 days you get your hard copy of
admission letter at your home.
In case of negative response they also inform you about it (sometimes they
don�t inform through hard copy; only through Email.)

*Section 7: Bank Account Opening.*
Once you get admission then you have to open bank in Deutsche Bank. You go
the respective Deutsche bank branch with your admission Letter, Passport
and National ID card. If you have short time and your hardcopy of admission
letter is not available then you can make print of your soft copy and show
them. They accept in either case (they just need admission Letter).
Follow the following steps for account opening:

1. Go to the embassy�s website before going to the bank and find the
amount which is required to be blocked ( in my case it was 7776 Euro with
monthly limit of 648 Euro and you have to mention this amount on the form
which the Bank will provide you for filling out the information). So fill
out the required information and ask them for help if you need it.
2. After filling out the application form and stamped by the Deutsche
Bank branch you have to send that application form along with the copy of
admission letter and your passport to the desired address (this address
will be available on the application form). Photocopy of your Passport and
admission letter should be attested by the Deutsche Bank branch (they will
return you above three documents fully attested).
3. Once you complete the documents, send them through DHL or any other
courier service ( I did through DHL).
4. After 4-5 working days you get information about your bank details
through an email (pdf file). Once you get your bank information then you
have to transfer the required amount to this bank account. You can use the
foreign currency account (Your�s/your father/any other member/friend; I
used of my friend to transfer the amount). If you don�t find it then you
can transfer the amount through Dollar East also. It is also a safe way to
send but they charge extra amount. You can check for latest rates.
5. Once you will transfer the amount from Pakistan then after 3-5
working days you get the notification by Deutsche Bank the you amount has
been transferred( Pdf through Email). One page will be in German and One
page will be in English stating your amount in the bank account). At
embassy you have to show only print of this Pdf file (no other financial
proof).

*Important:*

1. Minimum amount should be 7776 Euro in your account with monthly
condition of 648. But better you transfer more than 7778 Euro because once
your amount will be here they will charge around 15 Euro and later 50 Euro
when you will activate your account after coming in Germany. So it�s better
to transfer 100-150 Euro extra. Any extra amount more than 7776 Euro will
not be blocked; you can get this amount directly after coming here. So you
can deposit extra amount which you like.
2. Sometimes it happens that you open account on the base of admission
letter of one university and later you go to another University, but that
doesn�t matter because you can access your account anywhere in Germany and
you can activate at any Deutsche Bank branch here after coming ( for
example I�ve my account in Munich because first I had the intention for TU
Munich but later I applied visa for University of Stuttgart; so this thing
doesn�t matter).

Link for Deutsche Bank Pakistan:
http://www.db.com/pakistan/en/content/contacts.html

* The new amount is 7908�. Check website for more updates.

*Section 8: Embassy Appointment.*
(For Islamabad case only; because there is somehow little different case in
Karachi)
When you send your bank documents to Hamburg (for account opening) then at
that time call the German Embassy to take an appointment for visa because
they give you appointment after time period of 20-30 days (because in
winter semester many students apply for visa and Embassy processes around
20 candidates per day). So it�s better to take appointment well before time
and during this time your account and amount transfer will be done. They
ask you about your name, date of birth and give you date and time for your
interview (with token number).
You have to take appointment by phone. Use this link to make an appointment:
http://www.islamabad.diplo.de/Vertretung/islamabad/en/04__Visa__Passport__Legal/2__visa__longterm/__Visa__longterm.html

According to latest information you can arrange appointment via online
application form. The link is over here

https://service.diplo.de/rktermin/extern/choose_realmList.do?locationCode=isla&request_locale=en

*Section 9: Visa Documents.*
Now you have to prepare for visa interview and prepare your documents.
Following are the documents required. Arrange them in the same order which
is mentioned here (otherwise you have to arrange at time of Interview). You
need 3 sets of documents (make one original set and 2 sets of photocopies
in following order for Original and same for Copies)

1. Application form.
2. Passport Copy (1st four Pages only)
3. List of Relative and children outside Pakistan.
4. Security Questionnaire.
5. Applicant�s Declaration.
6. CV
7. Academic Documents (Degree->Transcript->HSSC->SSC).
8. Other educational and Experience documents.
9. Proof of Blocked account (print of Pdf file); only German page is
enough.

10. Health Insurance (here you have to show your travel insurance which
you can get through companies mentioned on Embassy�s website. It is not
necessary at time of Interview but it�s better to take with you because I
didn�t take and she said to send it later through Fax).
11. IELTS or German Language Skills.

All the above documents are important other than at # 8 (because they don�t
consider it for study visa and it�ll only make more documents). Well you
have to attest only your original documents (no need to attest
photocopies). Original degree+transcript through HEC/Foreign Office and
HSSC+SSC through IBCC/Foreign Office.
You are also required 4 photographs. Staple 3 photos on application forms
on the space available for photos (don�t paste) and put the 4th photo with
a paper clip on original application form. All documents should be duly
signed by the candidate where it is required.

According to latest information you have to arrange documents as follow:

1. Application form.
2. Admission letter
3. Proof of Blocked account (print of Pdf file); only German page is
enough.
4. CV
5. Academic Documents (Degree->Transcript->HSSC->SSC).
6. IELTS or German Language Skills.
7. Passport Copy (1st four Pages only)
8. List of Relative and children outside Pakistan.
9. Security Questionnaire.
10. Applicant�s Declaration.
11. Health Insurance (here you have to show your travel insurance which you
can get through companies mentioned on Embassy�s website.

So that�s it with arranging your documents.

*Section 10: Visa Interview.*
You should be there well before time. You can use Shuttle Bus Service to go
to embassy which will be available outside Diplomat Enclave. You should be
at Shuttle Service station 45-60 mints before starting your interview
because it takes some time to purchase ticket and other such stuff. So at
your assigned time you will enter in the Embassy and there will be a
counter when you enter in Main Hall. You have to deposit visa fee (60 Euro)
at that counter and you will get a receipt (more information you can find
on Embassy�s website). You will find your token under specific counter. So
you have to go at that counter and have to appear for Interview.
Following are the questions usually asked during your Interview:

1. What you have studied?
2. What are you going to study?
3. How long this course is?
4. Why you selected this University and course?
5. How you find information about this course/university?
6. Do you have any friend in Germany?
7. About family (members, what they do)?
8. About family financial status?
9. Who is going to finance you?

10. Some other general questions related to you/famil/course etc.
Interview will be for about 15-20 mints. During the interview answer all
the questions confidently.
So now you are done with your interview. After 4-8 weeks you get response
about your visa.
Wish you best of Luck. May ALLAH help all of you. This information is for
public use so guide the other students as much as possible for you.
Remember me in your prays.

Reference and Important links:
www.daad.de
www.masterportal.eu
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=109906431608 (Pakistani Students in
Germany)
http://www.facebook.com/Study.in.Germany
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PakistanischeGemeinde/
http://www.islamabad.diplo.de/Vertretung/islamabad/en/04__Visa__Passport__Legal/2__visa__longterm/__Visa__longterm.html
http://www.db.com/pakistan/en/content/contacts.html

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 1:59 PM, saq!b wrote:

> **
>
>
> Aoa everybody,
> Can somebody please guide me to apply for student visa of Germany from
> Karachi consulate? I have got admission in one of German universities and
> now I am willing to apply for visa.
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Saqib
>
>

--
Regards,

Muhammad Imad Khurram
B(CS) FAST-NU
Islamabad
Cell # 0092-312-5522776

Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:15 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"rehan CH" u04162

Dear Group Members,

Acme SBC manuals are required urgently. Thanks

Regards
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