Sir,
The questions are more related to economics then engineering, however being involve in few research oriented activities with gas companies, i have the following white hat info
- Price of CNG; is it fair to link it to international price of crude oil? Need a sound macro economic analysis, not emotional statements.
The price of CNG comprise of
Natural Gas Price from distributor
Compression/filtration bill
Operating cost
ROI
Direct Tax
Indirect Tax
In last 10 years the graph shows the hike of price from Rs 20 to Rs 90/Kg.
Natural gas fulfils 49% of the total energy need of Pakistan of that now the utilization pie has increased to 9 to 12 % of the 4000MMCD demand of gas for various utilizations including,
>Industry utilizing gas as raw material (Fertilizer and Plastic industry)
> Industry Utilizing gas for heating purpose
>Power generations
> Commercial sector
>Domestic sector
Due to seasonal effect the energy pater in our environment shifts from Energy utilization of building cooling to Building Heating.So the utilization patters shifts in winter.The regulatory authority has applied variable tarrif regime for various types of applications.leading to a grey areas.
The world wide energy price difference is various types of fuels exists but in developed countries the resource allocation and conservation is much planed and managed.
Natural gas being a Gift to us , being the indigenous resource was treated as source of corruption and political tool.
Measurement losses,Billing criteria ,Gas theft ,Leakages,slow pace of exploration no coal gasification have lead to a point where we were supposed to be at.
Further moving towards next three month, where the shortfalls will further increase and we will be seeing another worst shortfall.
Linking CNG price to the limit of 800 CC is under consideration that may be an good option to limit the excessive use of a precious resource, however overloading that class of society with tax like funds collection for Pak Iran Pipe line is also unjustified.
- If CNG is not used for transportation what will it be used for?
The alternate utilization of CNG is the production industry of fertilizer, textile ,PE industry and power generation, still 40K cars utilize 9 to 12 % , where as the UFG( line losses) of gas companies are much higher than that
- Should we switch to LPG for transportation? What are benefits of switching to LPG for transportation? What are the sources of LPG? What is the infrastructure cost of switching from CNG to LPG? Can CNG car kits be used with LPG? How much modification will be needed to these kits? Can we do this conversion of CNG kits locally? If so who will do the design and manufacturing?
No way to run,,LPG or LNG
CNG is compressed Natural gas , Natal gas has 70 to 90 % content of methane , where as LPG is butane in liquid form. Butane the Liquid petroleum Gas is experted from the well-head gases as a by-product and purified, bottled and Shipped in containers to clients same as petrol and Furness oil transported.Only a part of it is produced locally, however imported and transported via containers
Its calorific value is different from CNG(methane) and the operating pressures are different to be used in Cars, so the flow regulator will be changed if used in cars. That should cost round about 15K Rs.
In case of LNG its Natural gas cryogenics liquefied and transported in cryogenic containers The government initiated its terminal at Bin Qasim but still in process. Few experiments have been performed utilizing LNG on the CNG stations, however still it will increase the energy bill , but may not need modification in the car kit, rather it will need a modification in CNG station architecture.
- Is it true that we are as blessed with shale gas as US is? If it is true then how soon can this shale gas be brought on line?
OGDCL and other exploration companies are working on that, but still not less then 2 to 5 years, further OGDC is working on the enhansment of the existing wellheads, but still pace too slow to meet the challenge
ICT role was very obvious in the forecasters,But the implementation of ICT brings transparent systems that is not in the favour of cartels.
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Qasim Sheikh <qs358@yahoo.com> wrote:
Pakistan is in the midst of natural gas usage crisis. There are issues like:
- Price of CNG; is it fair to link it to international price of crude oil? Need a sound macro economic analysis, not emotional statements.
- If CNG is not used for transportation what will it be used for?
- Should we switch to LPG for transportation? What are benefits of switching to LPG for transportation? What are the sources of LPG? What is the infrastructure cost of switching from CNG to LPG? Can CNG car kits be used with LPG? How much modification will be needed to these kits? Can we do this conversion of CNG kits locally? If so who will do the design and manufacturing?
- If CNG is not used for transportation what will it be used for?
- Whatever this other use of CNG is, why can LPG not be used for this purpose?
- Is it true that we are as blessed with shale gas as US is? If it is true then how soon can this shale gas be brought on line?
- If this shale gas can be brought online (assuming it is there) why pay the cost of conversion of infrastructure from CNG to LPG?
- I can go on and on but have to get back to work.
Is HEC doing anything in this direction? Has HEC or National ICT R&D Fund issued any well thought out RFPs for such research? Like the RFPs NSF issues time to time?
Shiraz Shahid
GM Sales
Unified Dlabs
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