Wow I donx27;t know where People get their facts from. Pointing fingers at able gentlemen when the reason for incomplete projects maybe far from lack of competency. I donx27;t have anything against engineers, I am one as well, But engineering graduates and phd professors have different roles if one looks closely (industry and academia). You can tax both or not tax them ,that I donx27;t care about, we are not here for tax breaks to be honest. Lastly Try getting an ICT project and you will be surprised at the level of checks and balances, and the level of expert scrutiny (both internal and external) of the proposal before it even comes near acceptance. I think ICT is a breath of fresh air for all of us, itx27;s sad to see people so carelessly speaking ill of it. Regards Asad Naeem (PhD) Hod CS Air University Islamabad |
From: ali mahmud <alimahmud402@yahoo.com>;
To: pakgrid@yahoogroups.com <pakgrid@yahoogroups.com>;
Subject: Re: [pakgrid] Withdrawal of tax exemption: Teachers, researchers berate decision
Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2013 12:14:08 PM
| WAS Mr. Afzal Khan, -First of all, every common man is not paying tax. Get your figures right. There are more than 3 Million eligible tax payers who are not paying their taxes according to FBR. - If all of the University Teachers according to you are businessmen then based on the current proposed business friendly budget, they should be considered as businessmen and treated as such. - How much exactly is that "Huge Amount" from ICT funded projects? Would you like to give us some actual figures? Realistically speaking, a lot of the teachers still prefer to give classes in other Universities and get even a higher amount compared to what they get if they would opt to involve themselves in the hassle of project management. - People working on ICT funded projects do not get by any means amounts of 15000 - 20000. I have seen project staff getting salaries in excess of 65000 Rs/ month on the basis of an MS degree. You can check the HR remuneration document on the website of National ICT R & D Fund. If you were getting an amount of 15000 Rs. then there might have been serious issues of competency at your end or maybe you hold an MS in Accounting. - As far as strict checks on the project outcomes is required, I agree with that point. However, i will seriously encourage you to submit a viable proposal to ICT R & D and if successful, try to run a project yourself. You will get to know how well the wheel rolls. Lastly, I would advise you to act a bit maturely and not to paint everyone with the same brush. There are good and bad people in every fraternity, may it be teachers or anyone else. So spare us your sanctimonious platitudes and empty rhetoric and do a little better homework with some facts and figures if you are in the mood to malign an entire community in the future. From: Afzal Khan <kafzal599@yahoo.com> To: "pakgrid@yahoogroups.com" <pakgrid@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [pakgrid] Withdrawal of tax exemption: Teachers, researchers berate decision AOA All, First of all if every common man is paying tax, than it is greater responsibility of teachers to pay tax in full also. I had worked in the university infrastructures also and my conclusion is "These days these so called university teachers are no more than businessmen, who do business on the basis of their profession(which is considered pure)". According to government policy, if some one is working in an government organization, then he can not work in any other. But this groups gets pays from the universities and beside this, they get huge amount from projects being funded by ICT or other organizations. Beside this, the people working on those projects merely receive 15000 to 20000 Rs and that too after being an MS graduate. If these people demand such concessions from government, then there should also a minimum level being set the people working on the projects. The major part of the amount dedicated for the projects, goes to the corrupt people(who are sitting in every other university). There should also be strict check on the fulfillment of the project requirements. Like the university, from which Dr Amir Hayat belongs, a project with the title Software Defined Radio of worth approx 15million was assigned to it in 2008. Had it completed yet. Similarly, in 2009 same university got the USB project of worth 35 million, had it completed. and there are many other examples like these. Similarly, many of the Project Directors are reported to illegally transfer project's amount in some students accounts and then getting it back in form checks. The point is that teachers have to set high moral examples, not like these. Regards, From: Sheikh Usman N. <usman.nadeem@gmail.com> To: pakgrid@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [pakgrid] Withdrawal of tax exemption: Teachers, researchers berate decision Absolutely! I even go one step further. Engineers are more susceptible to brain drain than teachers. If this is the logic, then we also need tax break. On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:39 PM, SHEIKH IMRAN-UL- HAQUE <sihaque@engro.com> wrote:
Sheikh Usman N. "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight with you, then you win" -Gandhi http://sheikhusman.blogspot.com/ http://twitter.com/sheikh85 |
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