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Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:44 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Abdul Hafeez" abdulhafeez_heat
Assalam o alikum Everyone,
I have been following this post and its really nice to see people sharing their experiences. First of all,
@Mr. Zaheer: In the very first line you said to Mr. Awais that you totally disagree with his idea and later on you were saying that corruption is everywhere and Telecom sector is not an exception. This is exactly the point which Mr. Awais was highlighting that in the companies sometimes you have to go out of the way in order to ask useful information from seniors. If you had a good experience with your seniors, it doesn't mean that everyone is the same. Moreover, you also commented that this would happen in low profile companies. I really don't understand what do you mean by high profile and low profile. Sir, with due respect, I must say that its about the individuals not the company. I really don't know how do you rate Telenor, Ericsson, Huawei, ZTE and Mobilink. According to the people, these operators and vendors are considered as high profile. You can find cheap individuals in these companies as well, I have personally experienced but that's just my
experience so I can say that everyone is like that. Even in PTCL, if you have a chance to go there or if you work over there. There are still a lot of dirty politics in PTCL, although it has been privatised. So, the point is its all about attitude of an individual. You have to understand that this is a problem with us as a nation that if we are given some authorities, we misuse the authority. You can see this trend in all departments.
Coming back to the query of getting job in telecom sector. Mr. Zaheer is absolutely right that there is a big saturation in the telecom operator and vendors side because there are no new projects on which they will hire individuals. Unfortunately, as a telecom engineer we start to believe that these telecom operator career is the best and we should only go in this area of service and maintenance. Unfortunately, due to lack of R and D other opportunity doesn't grow in our society. In my opinion, you should be flexible in choosing a career. I must quote this example that during your bachelors you also studied Electromagnetic theory, Signal and Image Processing, Electronics, Programming and computer architecture. Its not the case that you only study wireless communication, analog and digital communication and data communication. So, just be open to other opportunities in other fields too. Please do not restrict yourself to telecom operators only. There are
a lot of software house and they are doing projects of different clients from abroad. In my opinion, they are working more on the latest and state of the art technologies. So, you should also try to apply for development related jobs. Some companies are developing products for future telecommunication technologies. So, in my opinion they have better future prospects. Moreover, this area is not so much saturated as developers are needed in every society and you can easily move forward by just developing your skills everyday. From my company, there are a lot of people who went abroad for employment because of their experience and expertise in one of the future technology "LTE" development. So, you should open to any opportunity which will come in your way. The life always give you chances but these chances can be given in different areas. So, just take the opportunity and you will feel after sometimes that it was the best for you. Don't loose hope and
never feel yourself down. You have the qualification and for sure you will be benefited from this. This won't go waste. InshAllah you will get a job.
Regards
Abdul Hafeez
________________________________
Von: Sajjad Ur rehman bhatti <sajjad4bstelecom@yahoo.com >
An: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com " <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
Gesendet: 22:10 Dienstag, 16.Oktober 2012
Betreff: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
Awais khawaja is right......!!!
________________________________
From: "innocent_cool39@yahoo.com " <innocent_cool39@yahoo.com >
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 3:08 AM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
Agree wd zaheer
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________________________________
From: zaheer taj <zaheer321@yahoo.com >
Sender: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:04:55 -0700 (PDT)
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
ReplyTo: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
Dear Awais Khawaja,
I don't know what type of engineers you have worked with and what type of company worked for but I totally disagree with your point of view. Might be the organization where u have worked has such environment that where engineers are behaving like police hawaldar or patwari. But I think you have worked with low profile people or low profile company or there is some problem with your capabilities.
My experience in telecom sector is totally different , I started from zero , I have learnt from seniors and also given whatever I could give to my Juniors.
There are corrupt people in every department and every area in Pakistan , so telecom is not the exception, Telecom engineers doesn't live on an other Ireland .
Simple reason for limited Job opportunitiesis economic and security situation in Pakistan. There are no new projects like 3G, 4G so there are limited opportunities. About 8,9 years back telecom sector was the best sector and there was no unemployment just becoz of growing telecom networks.
My advise is that just enhance your skills and focus more on your job rather then blaming others.
Best Regards
Zaheer
________________________________
From: Awais Khawaja <awais.khuwaja@yahoo.com >
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com " <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
Cc: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com " <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
You should work as internee in subcon. And wheneva you see any opportunity get yourself in. But for getting in any subcon you will have to prove your worth. No one would teach you there. You'll just have to follow engineers. Even, for learning something, you may have to buy cigarette/ cold drink/ tea for greedy engineers.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 4, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Ali Ahmed <aliahmedpatriot@yahoo.com > wrote:
>plz log on to www.pawa.com
>
>is website pay jobs hi jobs hain telecom k leyay.....
>
>--- On Wed, 10/3/12, Rizwan Shabbir <rizwan.squreshi@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>From: Rizwan Shabbir <rizwan.squreshi@gmail.com >
>Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Wednesday, October 3, 2012, 4:43 AM
>
>
>
>Dear all,
>
>Kindly share you experiances and suggest the fresh graduates "How to get a job in telecom sector".
>
>BR,
>Rizwan Shabbir
>
>
>
I have been following this post and its really nice to see people sharing their experiences. First of all,
@Mr. Zaheer: In the very first line you said to Mr. Awais that you totally disagree with his idea and later on you were saying that corruption is everywhere and Telecom sector is not an exception. This is exactly the point which Mr. Awais was highlighting that in the companies sometimes you have to go out of the way in order to ask useful information from seniors. If you had a good experience with your seniors, it doesn't mean that everyone is the same. Moreover, you also commented that this would happen in low profile companies. I really don't understand what do you mean by high profile and low profile. Sir, with due respect, I must say that its about the individuals not the company. I really don't know how do you rate Telenor, Ericsson, Huawei, ZTE and Mobilink. According to the people, these operators and vendors are considered as high profile. You can find cheap individuals in these companies as well, I have personally experienced but that's just my
experience so I can say that everyone is like that. Even in PTCL, if you have a chance to go there or if you work over there. There are still a lot of dirty politics in PTCL, although it has been privatised. So, the point is its all about attitude of an individual. You have to understand that this is a problem with us as a nation that if we are given some authorities, we misuse the authority. You can see this trend in all departments.
Coming back to the query of getting job in telecom sector. Mr. Zaheer is absolutely right that there is a big saturation in the telecom operator and vendors side because there are no new projects on which they will hire individuals. Unfortunately, as a telecom engineer we start to believe that these telecom operator career is the best and we should only go in this area of service and maintenance. Unfortunately, due to lack of R and D other opportunity doesn't grow in our society. In my opinion, you should be flexible in choosing a career. I must quote this example that during your bachelors you also studied Electromagne
a lot of software house and they are doing projects of different clients from abroad. In my opinion, they are working more on the latest and state of the art technologies. So, you should also try to apply for development related jobs. Some companies are developing products for future telecommunication technologies. So, in my opinion they have better future prospects. Moreover, this area is not so much saturated as developers are needed in every society and you can easily move forward by just developing your skills everyday. From my company, there are a lot of people who went abroad for employment because of their experience and expertise in one of the future technology "LTE" development. So, you should open to any opportunity which will come in your way. The life always give you chances but these chances can be given in different areas. So, just take the opportunity and you will feel after sometimes that it was the best for you. Don't loose hope and
never feel yourself down. You have the qualification and for sure you will be benefited from this. This won't go waste. InshAllah you will get a job.
Regards
Abdul Hafeez
____________
Von: Sajjad Ur rehman bhatti <sajjad4bstelecom@
An: "bs-telecom@yahoogro
Gesendet: 22:10 Dienstag, 16.Oktober 2012
Betreff: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
Awais khawaja is right......!
____________
From: "innocent_cool39@
To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 3:08 AM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
Agree wd zaheer
*** This Message Has Been Sent Using BlackBerry Internet Service from Mobilink ***
____________
From: zaheer taj <zaheer321@yahoo.
Sender: bs-telecom@yahoogro
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:04:55 -0700 (PDT)
To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
ReplyTo: bs-telecom@yahoogro
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
Dear Awais Khawaja,
I don't know what type of engineers you have worked with and what type of company worked for but I totally disagree with your point of view. Might be the organization where u have worked has such environment that where engineers are behaving like police hawaldar or patwari. But I think you have worked with low profile people or low profile company or there is some problem with your capabilities.
My experience in telecom sector is totally different , I started from zero , I have learnt from seniors and also given whatever I could give to my Juniors.
There are corrupt people in every department and every area in Pakistan , so telecom is not the exception, Telecom engineers doesn'
Simple reason for limited Job opportunities
My advise is that just enhance your skills and focus more on your job rather then blaming others.
Best Regards
Zaheer
____________
From: Awais Khawaja <awais.khuwaja@
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogro
Cc: "bs-telecom@yahoogro
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
You should work as internee in subcon. And wheneva you see any opportunity get yourself in. But for getting in any subcon you will have to prove your worth. No one would teach you there. You'll just have to follow engineers. Even, for learning something, you may have to buy cigarette/ cold drink/ tea for greedy engineers.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 4, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Ali Ahmed <aliahmedpatriot@
>plz log on to www.pawa.com
>
>is website pay jobs hi jobs hain telecom k leyay.....
>
>--- On Wed, 10/3/12, Rizwan Shabbir <rizwan.squreshi@
>
>From: Rizwan Shabbir <rizwan.squreshi@
>Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
>Date: Wednesday, October 3, 2012, 4:43 AM
>
>
>
>Dear all,
>
>Kindly share you experiances and suggest the fresh graduates "How to get a job in telecom sector".
>
>BR,
>Rizwan Shabbir
>
>
>
Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:44 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Kashif Sami" kashif.sami
you forgot to mention about *Alcatel-Lucent* which is currently hiring
experience and Fresh graduates also.
*Muhammad Kashif Sami*
Integration Professional
PS/LTE Core & IP Division
EME & Africa QA & CC
Alcatel-Lucent, Saint Denis ,Reunion France
*kashif.sami@alcatel-lucent.pk *
Q Please consider the environment before printing this email
On 17 October 2012 13:44, Abdul Hafeez <abdulhafeez_heat@yahoo.com > wrote:
> **
>
>
> Assalam o alikum Everyone,
>
> I have been following this post and its really nice to see people sharing
> their experiences. First of all,
>
> @Mr. Zaheer: In the very first line you said to Mr. Awais that you totally
> disagree with his idea and later on you were saying that corruption is
> everywhere and Telecom sector is not an exception. This is exactly the
> point which Mr. Awais was highlighting that in the companies sometimes you
> have to go out of the way in order to ask useful information from seniors.
> If you had a good experience with your seniors, it doesn't mean that
> everyone is the same. Moreover, you also commented that this would happen
> in low profile companies. I really don't understand what do you mean by
> high profile and low profile. Sir, with due respect, I must say that its
> about the individuals not the company. I really don't know how do you rate
> Telenor, Ericsson, Huawei, ZTE and Mobilink. According to the people, these
> operators and vendors are considered as high profile. You can find cheap
> individuals in these companies as well, I have personally experienced but
> that's just my experience so I can say that everyone is like that. Even in
> PTCL, if you have a chance to go there or if you work over there. There are
> still a lot of dirty politics in PTCL, although it has been privatised. So,
> the point is its all about attitude of an individual. You have to
> understand that this is a problem with us as a nation that if we are given
> some authorities, we misuse the authority. You can see this trend in all
> departments.
>
> Coming back to the query of getting job in telecom sector. Mr. Zaheer is
> absolutely right that there is a big saturation in the telecom operator and
> vendors side because there are no new projects on which they will hire
> individuals. Unfortunately, as a telecom engineer we start to believe that
> these telecom operator career is the best and we should only go in this
> area of service and maintenance. Unfortunately, due to lack of R and D
> other opportunity doesn't grow in our society. In my opinion, you should be
> flexible in choosing a career. I must quote this example that during your
> bachelors you also studied Electromagnetic theory, Signal and Image
> Processing, Electronics, Programming and computer architecture. Its not the
> case that you only study wireless communication, analog and digital
> communication and data communication. So, just be open to other
> opportunities in other fields too. Please do not restrict yourself to
> telecom operators only. There are a lot of software house and they are
> doing projects of different clients from abroad. In my opinion, they are
> working more on the latest and state of the art technologies. So, you
> should also try to apply for development related jobs. Some companies are
> developing products for future telecommunication technologies. So, in my
> opinion they have better future prospects. Moreover, this area is not so
> much saturated as developers are needed in every society and you can easily
> move forward by just developing your skills everyday. From my company,
> there are a lot of people who went abroad for employment because of their
> experience and expertise in one of the future technology "LTE" development.
> So, you should open to any opportunity which will come in your way. The
> life always give you chances but these chances can be given in different
> areas. So, just take the opportunity and you will feel after sometimes that
> it was the best for you. Don't loose hope and never feel yourself down. You
> have the qualification and for sure you will be benefited from this. This
> won't go waste. InshAllah you will get a job.
>
> Regards
> Abdul Hafeez
>
> ------------------------------
> *Von:* Sajjad Ur rehman bhatti <sajjad4bstelecom@yahoo.com >
> *An:* "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com " <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
> *Gesendet:* 22:10 Dienstag, 16.Oktober 2012
> *Betreff:* Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
> Awais khawaja is right......!!!
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "innocent_cool39@yahoo.com " <innocent_cool39@yahoo.com >
> *To:* bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Friday, October 12, 2012 3:08 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
> Agree wd zaheer
> *** This Message Has Been Sent Using BlackBerry Internet Service from
> Mobilink ***
> ------------------------------
> *From: * zaheer taj <zaheer321@yahoo.com >
> *Sender: * bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
> *Date: *Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:04:55 -0700 (PDT)
> *To: *bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
> *ReplyTo: * bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
> Dear Awais Khawaja,
> I don't know what type of engineers you have worked with and what type of
> company worked for but I totally disagree with your point of view. Might be
> the organization where u have worked has such environment that where
> engineers are behaving like police hawaldar or patwari. But I think you
> have worked with low profile people or low profile company or there is some
> problem with your capabilities.
> My experience in telecom sector is totally different , I started from zero
> , I have learnt from seniors and also given whatever I could give to my
> Juniors.
> There are corrupt people in every department and every area in Pakistan ,
> so telecom is not the exception, Telecom engineers doesn't live on an
> other Ireland .
> Simple reason for limited Job opportunities is economic and
> security situation in Pakistan. There are no new projects like 3G, 4G so
> there are limited opportunities. About 8,9 years back telecom sector was
> the best sector and there was no unemployment just becoz of growing telecom
> networks.
> My advise is that just enhance your skills and focus more on your job
> rather then blaming others.
>
>
> Best Regards
> Zaheer
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Awais Khawaja <awais.khuwaja@yahoo.com >
> *To:* "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com " <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
> *Cc:* "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com " <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
> *Sent:* Friday, October 5, 2012 7:52 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
> You should work as internee in subcon. And wheneva you see any opportunity
> get yourself in. But for getting in any subcon you will have to prove your
> worth. No one would teach you there. You'll just have to follow engineers.
> Even, for learning something, you may have to buy cigarette/ cold drink/
> tea for greedy engineers.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 4, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Ali Ahmed <aliahmedpatriot@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
>
> plz log on to www.pawa.com
>
> is website pay jobs hi jobs hain telecom k leyay.....
>
> --- On Wed, 10/3/12, Rizwan Shabbir <rizwan.squreshi@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> From: Rizwan Shabbir <rizwan.squreshi@gmail.com >
> Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
> To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, October 3, 2012, 4:43 AM
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Kindly share you experiances and suggest the fresh graduates "How to get a
> job in telecom sector".
>
> BR,
> Rizwan Shabbir
>
>
>
>
> <http://www.cute-emoticons.com/wp/ie.php?plg=ch&ad2=0&subs=chrome&elm=sign >
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Muhammad Kashif Sami
Packet Core
Alcatel-Lucent
experience and Fresh graduates also.
*Muhammad Kashif Sami*
Integration Professional
PS/LTE Core & IP Division
EME & Africa QA & CC
Alcatel-Lucent, Saint Denis ,Reunion France
*kashif.sami@
Q Please consider the environment before printing this email
On 17 October 2012 13:44, Abdul Hafeez <abdulhafeez_
> **
>
>
> Assalam o alikum Everyone,
>
> I have been following this post and its really nice to see people sharing
> their experiences. First of all,
>
> @Mr. Zaheer: In the very first line you said to Mr. Awais that you totally
> disagree with his idea and later on you were saying that corruption is
> everywhere and Telecom sector is not an exception. This is exactly the
> point which Mr. Awais was highlighting that in the companies sometimes you
> have to go out of the way in order to ask useful information from seniors.
> If you had a good experience with your seniors, it doesn't mean that
> everyone is the same. Moreover, you also commented that this would happen
> in low profile companies. I really don't understand what do you mean by
> high profile and low profile. Sir, with due respect, I must say that its
> about the individuals not the company. I really don't know how do you rate
> Telenor, Ericsson, Huawei, ZTE and Mobilink. According to the people, these
> operators and vendors are considered as high profile. You can find cheap
> individuals in these companies as well, I have personally experienced but
> that's just my experience so I can say that everyone is like that. Even in
> PTCL, if you have a chance to go there or if you work over there. There are
> still a lot of dirty politics in PTCL, although it has been privatised. So,
> the point is its all about attitude of an individual. You have to
> understand that this is a problem with us as a nation that if we are given
> some authorities, we misuse the authority. You can see this trend in all
> departments.
>
> Coming back to the query of getting job in telecom sector. Mr. Zaheer is
> absolutely right that there is a big saturation in the telecom operator and
> vendors side because there are no new projects on which they will hire
> individuals. Unfortunately, as a telecom engineer we start to believe that
> these telecom operator career is the best and we should only go in this
> area of service and maintenance. Unfortunately, due to lack of R and D
> other opportunity doesn't grow in our society. In my opinion, you should be
> flexible in choosing a career. I must quote this example that during your
> bachelors you also studied Electromagnetic theory, Signal and Image
> Processing, Electronics, Programming and computer architecture. Its not the
> case that you only study wireless communication, analog and digital
> communication and data communication. So, just be open to other
> opportunities in other fields too. Please do not restrict yourself to
> telecom operators only. There are a lot of software house and they are
> doing projects of different clients from abroad. In my opinion, they are
> working more on the latest and state of the art technologies. So, you
> should also try to apply for development related jobs. Some companies are
> developing products for future telecommunication technologies. So, in my
> opinion they have better future prospects. Moreover, this area is not so
> much saturated as developers are needed in every society and you can easily
> move forward by just developing your skills everyday. From my company,
> there are a lot of people who went abroad for employment because of their
> experience and expertise in one of the future technology "LTE" development.
> So, you should open to any opportunity which will come in your way. The
> life always give you chances but these chances can be given in different
> areas. So, just take the opportunity and you will feel after sometimes that
> it was the best for you. Don't loose hope and never feel yourself down. You
> have the qualification and for sure you will be benefited from this. This
> won't go waste. InshAllah you will get a job.
>
> Regards
> Abdul Hafeez
>
> ------------
> *Von:* Sajjad Ur rehman bhatti <sajjad4bstelecom@
> *An:* "bs-telecom@yahoogro
> *Gesendet:* 22:10 Dienstag, 16.Oktober 2012
> *Betreff:* Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
> Awais khawaja is right......!
>
> ------------
> *From:* "innocent_cool39@
> *To:* bs-telecom@yahoogro
> *Sent:* Friday, October 12, 2012 3:08 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
> Agree wd zaheer
> *** This Message Has Been Sent Using BlackBerry Internet Service from
> Mobilink ***
> ------------
> *From: * zaheer taj <zaheer321@yahoo.
> *Sender: * bs-telecom@yahoogro
> *Date: *Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:04:55 -0700 (PDT)
> *To: *bs-telecom@
> *ReplyTo: * bs-telecom@yahoogro
> *Subject: *Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
> Dear Awais Khawaja,
> I don't know what type of engineers you have worked with and what type of
> company worked for but I totally disagree with your point of view. Might be
> the organization where u have worked has such environment that where
> engineers are behaving like police hawaldar or patwari. But I think you
> have worked with low profile people or low profile company or there is some
> problem with your capabilities.
> My experience in telecom sector is totally different , I started from zero
> , I have learnt from seniors and also given whatever I could give to my
> Juniors.
> There are corrupt people in every department and every area in Pakistan ,
> so telecom is not the exception, Telecom engineers doesn't live on an
> other Ireland .
> Simple reason for limited Job opportunities is economic and
> security situation in Pakistan. There are no new projects like 3G, 4G so
> there are limited opportunities. About 8,9 years back telecom sector was
> the best sector and there was no unemployment just becoz of growing telecom
> networks.
> My advise is that just enhance your skills and focus more on your job
> rather then blaming others.
>
>
> Best Regards
> Zaheer
> ------------
> *From:* Awais Khawaja <awais.khuwaja@
> *To:* "bs-telecom@yahoogro
> *Cc:* "bs-telecom@yahoogro
> *Sent:* Friday, October 5, 2012 7:52 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
> You should work as internee in subcon. And wheneva you see any opportunity
> get yourself in. But for getting in any subcon you will have to prove your
> worth. No one would teach you there. You'll just have to follow engineers.
> Even, for learning something, you may have to buy cigarette/ cold drink/
> tea for greedy engineers.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 4, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Ali Ahmed <aliahmedpatriot@
>
>
> plz log on to www.pawa.com
>
> is website pay jobs hi jobs hain telecom k leyay.....
>
> --- On Wed, 10/3/12, Rizwan Shabbir <rizwan.squreshi@
>
> From: Rizwan Shabbir <rizwan.squreshi@
> Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
> To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
> Date: Wednesday, October 3, 2012, 4:43 AM
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Kindly share you experiances and suggest the fresh graduates "How to get a
> job in telecom sector".
>
> BR,
> Rizwan Shabbir
>
>
>
>
> <http://www.cute-
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Muhammad Kashif Sami
Packet Core
Alcatel-Lucent
Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:45 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Usman" charmingsmilepk
Wa'Aslikum As'lam
Wao !! Its well done to Abdul Hafeez for this elaborated answer. We should definitely appreciate the way you guys explain and indeed its more professional .
I would appreciateyou guys if anyone discuss about development companies that Mr. Hafeez discussed about. I am working on pure Research development project in my final year. I might get a chance to get jobs in R&D side.
Best Regards
Usman khalid
________________________________
From: Abdul Hafeez <abdulhafeez_heat@yahoo.com >
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com " <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 2:44 AM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
Assalam o alikum Everyone,
I have been following this post and its really nice to see people sharing their experiences. First of all,
@Mr. Zaheer: In the very first line you said to Mr. Awais that you totally disagree with his idea and later on you were saying that corruption is everywhere and Telecom sector is not an exception. This is exactly the point which Mr. Awais was highlighting that in the companies sometimes you have to go out of the way in order to ask useful information from seniors. If you had a good experience with your seniors, it doesn't mean that everyone is the same. Moreover, you also commented that this would happen in low profile companies. I really don't understand what do you mean by high profile and low profile. Sir, with due respect, I must say that its about the individuals not the company. I really don't know how do you rate Telenor, Ericsson, Huawei, ZTE and Mobilink. According to the people, these operators and vendors are considered as high profile. You can find cheap individuals in these companies as well, I have personally experienced but that's just my
experience so I can say that everyone is like that. Even in PTCL, if you have a chance to go there or if you work over there. There are still a lot of dirty politics in PTCL, although it has been privatised. So, the point is its all about attitude of an individual. You have to understand that this is a problem with us as a nation that if we are given some authorities, we misuse the authority. You can see this trend in all departments.
Coming back to the query of getting job in telecom sector. Mr. Zaheer is absolutely right that there is a big saturation in the telecom operator and vendors side because there are no new projects on which they will hire individuals. Unfortunately, as a telecom engineer we start to believe that these telecom operator career is the best and we should only go in this area of service and maintenance. Unfortunately, due to lack of R and D other opportunity doesn't grow in our society. In my opinion, you should be flexible in choosing a career. I must quote this example that during your bachelors you also studied Electromagnetic theory, Signal and Image Processing, Electronics, Programming and computer architecture. Its not the case that you only study wireless communication, analog and digital communication and data communication. So, just be open to other opportunities in other fields too. Please do not restrict yourself to telecom operators only. There are
a lot of software house and they are doing projects of different clients from abroad. In my opinion, they are working more on the latest and state of the art technologies. So, you should also try to apply for development related jobs. Some companies are developing products for future telecommunication technologies. So, in my opinion they have better future prospects. Moreover, this area is not so much saturated as developers are needed in every society and you can easily move forward by just developing your skills everyday. From my company, there are a lot of people who went abroad for employment because of their experience and expertise in one of the future technology "LTE" development. So, you should open to any opportunity which will come in your way. The life always give you chances but these chances can be given in different areas. So, just take the opportunity and you will feel after sometimes that it was the best for you. Don't loose hope and
never feel yourself down. You have the qualification and for sure you will be benefited from this. This won't go waste. InshAllah you will get a job.
Regards
Abdul Hafeez
________________________________
Von: Sajjad Ur rehman bhatti <sajjad4bstelecom@yahoo.com >
An: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com " <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
Gesendet: 22:10 Dienstag, 16.Oktober 2012
Betreff: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
Awais khawaja is right......!!!
________________________________
From: "innocent_cool39@yahoo.com " <innocent_cool39@yahoo.com >
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 3:08 AM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
Agree wd zaheer
*** This Message Has Been Sent Using BlackBerry Internet Service from Mobilink ***
________________________________
From: zaheer taj <zaheer321@yahoo.com >
Sender: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:04:55 -0700 (PDT)
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
ReplyTo: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
Dear Awais Khawaja,
I don't know what type of engineers you have worked with and what type of company worked for but I totally disagree with your point of view. Might be the organization where u have worked has such environment that where engineers are behaving like police hawaldar or patwari. But I think you have worked with low profile people or low profile company or there is some problem with your capabilities.
My experience in telecom sector is totally different , I started from zero , I have learnt from seniors and also given whatever I could give to my Juniors.
There are corrupt people in every department and every area in Pakistan , so telecom is not the exception, Telecom engineers doesn't live on an other Ireland .
Simple reason for limited Job opportunitiesis economic and security situation in Pakistan. There are no new projects like 3G, 4G so there are limited opportunities. About 8,9 years back telecom sector was the best sector and there was no unemployment just becoz of growing telecom networks.
My advise is that just enhance your skills and focus more on your job rather then blaming others.
Best Regards
Zaheer
________________________________
From: Awais Khawaja <awais.khuwaja@yahoo.com >
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com " <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
Cc: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com " <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
You should work as internee in subcon. And wheneva you see any opportunity get yourself in. But for getting in any subcon you will have to prove your worth. No one would teach you there. You'll just have to follow engineers. Even, for learning something, you may have to buy cigarette/ cold drink/ tea for greedy engineers.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 4, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Ali Ahmed <aliahmedpatriot@yahoo.com > wrote:
>plz log on to www.pawa.com
>
>is website pay jobs hi jobs hain telecom k leyay.....
>
>--- On Wed, 10/3/12, Rizwan Shabbir <rizwan.squreshi@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>From: Rizwan Shabbir <rizwan.squreshi@gmail.com >
>Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Wednesday, October 3, 2012, 4:43 AM
>
>
>
>Dear all,
>
>Kindly share you experiances and suggest the fresh graduates "How to get a job in telecom sector".
>
>BR,
>Rizwan Shabbir
>
>
>
Wao !! Its well done to Abdul Hafeez for this elaborated answer. We should definitely appreciat
I would appreciate
Best Regards
Usman khalid
____________
From: Abdul Hafeez <abdulhafeez_
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogro
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 2:44 AM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
Assalam o alikum Everyone,
I have been following this post and its really nice to see people sharing their experiences. First of all,
@Mr. Zaheer: In the very first line you said to Mr. Awais that you totally disagree with his idea and later on you were saying that corruption is everywhere and Telecom sector is not an exception. This is exactly the point which Mr. Awais was highlighting that in the companies sometimes you have to go out of the way in order to ask useful information from seniors. If you had a good experience with your seniors, it doesn't mean that everyone is the same. Moreover, you also commented that this would happen in low profile companies. I really don't understand what do you mean by high profile and low profile. Sir, with due respect, I must say that its about the individuals not the company. I really don't know how do you rate Telenor, Ericsson, Huawei, ZTE and Mobilink. According to the people, these operators and vendors are considered as high profile. You can find cheap individuals in these companies as well, I have personally experienced but that's just my
experience so I can say that everyone is like that. Even in PTCL, if you have a chance to go there or if you work over there. There are still a lot of dirty politics in PTCL, although it has been privatised. So, the point is its all about attitude of an individual. You have to understand that this is a problem with us as a nation that if we are given some authorities, we misuse the authority. You can see this trend in all departments.
Coming back to the query of getting job in telecom sector. Mr. Zaheer is absolutely right that there is a big saturation in the telecom operator and vendors side because there are no new projects on which they will hire individuals. Unfortunately, as a telecom engineer we start to believe that these telecom operator career is the best and we should only go in this area of service and maintenance. Unfortunately, due to lack of R and D other opportunity doesn't grow in our society. In my opinion, you should be flexible in choosing a career. I must quote this example that during your bachelors you also studied Electromagne
a lot of software house and they are doing projects of different clients from abroad. In my opinion, they are working more on the latest and state of the art technologies. So, you should also try to apply for development related jobs. Some companies are developing products for future telecommunication technologies. So, in my opinion they have better future prospects. Moreover, this area is not so much saturated as developers are needed in every society and you can easily move forward by just developing your skills everyday. From my company, there are a lot of people who went abroad for employment because of their experience and expertise in one of the future technology "LTE" development. So, you should open to any opportunity which will come in your way. The life always give you chances but these chances can be given in different areas. So, just take the opportunity and you will feel after sometimes that it was the best for you. Don't loose hope and
never feel yourself down. You have the qualification and for sure you will be benefited from this. This won't go waste. InshAllah you will get a job.
Regards
Abdul Hafeez
____________
Von: Sajjad Ur rehman bhatti <sajjad4bstelecom@
An: "bs-telecom@yahoogro
Gesendet: 22:10 Dienstag, 16.Oktober 2012
Betreff: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
Awais khawaja is right......!
____________
From: "innocent_cool39@
To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 3:08 AM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
Agree wd zaheer
*** This Message Has Been Sent Using BlackBerry Internet Service from Mobilink ***
____________
From: zaheer taj <zaheer321@yahoo.
Sender: bs-telecom@yahoogro
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:04:55 -0700 (PDT)
To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
ReplyTo: bs-telecom@yahoogro
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
Dear Awais Khawaja,
I don't know what type of engineers you have worked with and what type of company worked for but I totally disagree with your point of view. Might be the organization where u have worked has such environment that where engineers are behaving like police hawaldar or patwari. But I think you have worked with low profile people or low profile company or there is some problem with your capabilities.
My experience in telecom sector is totally different , I started from zero , I have learnt from seniors and also given whatever I could give to my Juniors.
There are corrupt people in every department and every area in Pakistan , so telecom is not the exception, Telecom engineers doesn'
Simple reason for limited Job opportunities
My advise is that just enhance your skills and focus more on your job rather then blaming others.
Best Regards
Zaheer
____________
From: Awais Khawaja <awais.khuwaja@
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogro
Cc: "bs-telecom@yahoogro
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
You should work as internee in subcon. And wheneva you see any opportunity get yourself in. But for getting in any subcon you will have to prove your worth. No one would teach you there. You'll just have to follow engineers. Even, for learning something, you may have to buy cigarette/ cold drink/ tea for greedy engineers.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 4, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Ali Ahmed <aliahmedpatriot@
>plz log on to www.pawa.com
>
>is website pay jobs hi jobs hain telecom k leyay.....
>
>--- On Wed, 10/3/12, Rizwan Shabbir <rizwan.squreshi@
>
>From: Rizwan Shabbir <rizwan.squreshi@
>Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
>Date: Wednesday, October 3, 2012, 4:43 AM
>
>
>
>Dear all,
>
>Kindly share you experiances and suggest the fresh graduates "How to get a job in telecom sector".
>
>BR,
>Rizwan Shabbir
>
>
>
Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:22 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"ishtiaq Ahmed" ishtiaq220
how to apply in alcatel-lucient. i am fresh graduate.
ISHTIAQ AHMEDElectrical(Telecommunication) EngineerContact # +923026760440
________________________________
From: Kashif Sami <kashifsami82@gmail.com >
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
you forgot to mention about Alcatel-Lucent which is currently hiring experience and Fresh graduates also.
Muhammad Kashif Sami
Integration Professional
PS/LTE Core & IP Division
EME & Africa QA & CC
Alcatel-Lucent, Saint Denis ,Reunion
France
kashif.sami@alcatel-lucent.pk
Q Please consider the environment
before printing this email
On 17 October 2012 13:44, Abdul Hafeez <abdulhafeez_heat@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
>Assalam o alikum Everyone,
>
>
>I have been following this post and its really nice to see people sharing their experiences. First of all,
>
>
>@Mr. Zaheer: In the very first line you said to Mr. Awais that you totally disagree with his idea and later on you were saying that corruption is everywhere and Telecom sector is not an exception. This is exactly the point which Mr. Awais was highlighting that in the companies sometimes you have to go out of the way in order to ask useful information from seniors. If you had a good experience with your seniors, it doesn't mean that everyone is the same. Moreover, you also commented that this would happen in low profile companies. I really don't understand what do you mean by high profile and low profile. Sir, with due respect, I must say that its about the individuals not the company. I really don't know how do you rate Telenor, Ericsson, Huawei, ZTE and Mobilink. According to the people, these operators and vendors are considered as high profile. You can find cheap individuals in these companies as well, I have personally experienced but that's just my
experience so I can say that everyone is like that. Even in PTCL, if you have a chance to go there or if you work over there. There are still a lot of dirty politics in PTCL, although it has been privatised. So, the point is its all about attitude of an individual. You have to understand that this is a problem with us as a nation that if we are given some authorities, we misuse the authority. You can see this trend in all departments.
>
>
>Coming back to the query of getting job in telecom sector. Mr. Zaheer is absolutely right that there is a big saturation in the telecom operator and vendors side because there are no new projects on which they will hire individuals. Unfortunately, as a telecom engineer we start to believe that these telecom operator career is the best and we should only go in this area of service and maintenance. Unfortunately, due to lack of R and D other opportunity doesn't grow in our society. In my opinion, you should be flexible in choosing a career. I must quote this example that during your bachelors you also studied Electromagnetic theory, Signal and Image Processing, Electronics, Programming and computer architecture. Its not the case that you only study wireless communication, analog and digital communication and data communication. So, just be open to other opportunities in other fields too. Please do not restrict yourself to telecom operators only. There
are a lot of software house and they are doing projects of different clients from abroad. In my opinion, they are working more on the latest and state of the art technologies. So, you should also try to apply for development related jobs. Some companies are developing products for future telecommunication technologies. So, in my opinion they have better future prospects. Moreover, this area is not so much saturated as developers are needed in every society and you can easily move forward by just developing your skills everyday. From my company, there are a lot of people who went abroad for employment because of their experience and expertise in one of the future technology "LTE" development. So, you should open to any opportunity which will come in your way. The life always give you chances but these chances can be given in different areas. So, just take the opportunity and you will feel after sometimes that it was the best for you. Don't loose hope and
never feel yourself down. You have the qualification and for sure you will be benefited from this. This won't go waste. InshAllah you will get a job.
>
>
>Regards
>Abdul Hafeez
>
>
>
>________________________________
> Von: Sajjad Ur rehman bhatti <sajjad4bstelecom@yahoo.com >
>An: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com " <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
>Gesendet: 22:10 Dienstag, 16.Oktober 2012
>Betreff: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
>Awais khawaja is right......!!!
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: "innocent_cool39@yahoo.com " <innocent_cool39@yahoo.com >
>To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 3:08 AM
>Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
>Agree wd zaheer
>*** This Message Has Been Sent Using BlackBerry Internet Service from Mobilink ***
>
>________________________________
>
>From: zaheer taj <zaheer321@yahoo.com >
>Sender: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:04:55 -0700 (PDT)
>To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
>ReplyTo: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
>Dear Awais Khawaja,
>I don't know what type of engineers you have worked with and what type of company worked for but I totally disagree with your point of view. Might be the organization where u have worked has such environment that where engineers are behaving like police hawaldar or patwari. But I think you have worked with low profile people or low profile company or there is some problem with your capabilities.
>My experience in telecom sector is totally different , I started from zero , I have learnt from seniors and also given whatever I could give to my Juniors.
>There are corrupt people in every department and every area in Pakistan , so telecom is not the exception, Telecom engineers doesn't live on an other Ireland .
> Simple reason for limited Job opportunitiesis economic and security situation in Pakistan. There are no new projects like 3G, 4G so there are limited opportunities. About 8,9 years back telecom sector was the best sector and there was no unemployment just becoz of growing telecom networks.
>My advise is that just enhance your skills and focus more on your job rather then blaming others.
>
>
>
>
>Best Regards
>Zaheer
>
>________________________________
> From: Awais Khawaja <awais.khuwaja@yahoo.com >
>To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com " <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
>Cc: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com " <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
>Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:52 PM
>Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
>You should work as internee in subcon. And wheneva you see any opportunity get yourself in. But for getting in any subcon you will have to prove your worth. No one would teach you there. You'll just have to follow engineers. Even, for learning something, you may have to buy cigarette/ cold drink/ tea for greedy engineers.
>Sent from my iPhone
>On Oct 4, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Ali Ahmed <aliahmedpatriot@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
>>plz log on to http://www.pawa.com/ is website pay jobs hi jobs hain telecom k leyay..... --- On Wed, 10/3/12, Rizwan Shabbir <mailto:rizwan.squreshi%40gmail.com> wrote: From: Rizwan Shabbir <mailto:rizwan.squreshi%40gmail.com> Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector To: mailto:bs-telecom%40yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 3, 2012, 4:43 AM Dear all, Kindly share you experiances and suggest the fresh graduates "How to get a job in telecom sector". BR, Rizwan Shabbir -- Muhammad Kashif SamiPacket CoreAlcatel-Lucent
ISHTIAQ AHMEDElectrical(
____________
From: Kashif Sami <kashifsami82@
To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
you forgot to mention about Alcatel-Lucent which is currently hiring experience and Fresh graduates also.
Muhammad Kashif Sami
Integration Professional
PS/LTE Core & IP Division
EME & Africa QA & CC
Alcatel-Lucent, Saint Denis ,Reunion
France
kashif.sami@
Q Please consider the environment
before printing this email
On 17 October 2012 13:44, Abdul Hafeez <abdulhafeez_
>
>Assalam o alikum Everyone,
>
>
>I have been following this post and its really nice to see people sharing their experiences. First of all,
>
>
>@Mr. Zaheer: In the very first line you said to Mr. Awais that you totally disagree with his idea and later on you were saying that corruption is everywhere and Telecom sector is not an exception. This is exactly the point which Mr. Awais was highlighting that in the companies sometimes you have to go out of the way in order to ask useful information from seniors. If you had a good experience with your seniors, it doesn't mean that everyone is the same. Moreover, you also commented that this would happen in low profile companies. I really don't understand what do you mean by high profile and low profile. Sir, with due respect, I must say that its about the individuals not the company. I really don't know how do you rate Telenor, Ericsson, Huawei, ZTE and Mobilink. According to the people, these operators and vendors are considered as high profile. You can find cheap individuals in these companies as well, I have personally experienced but that's just my
experience so I can say that everyone is like that. Even in PTCL, if you have a chance to go there or if you work over there. There are still a lot of dirty politics in PTCL, although it has been privatised. So, the point is its all about attitude of an individual. You have to understand that this is a problem with us as a nation that if we are given some authorities, we misuse the authority. You can see this trend in all departments.
>
>
>Coming back to the query of getting job in telecom sector. Mr. Zaheer is absolutely right that there is a big saturation in the telecom operator and vendors side because there are no new projects on which they will hire individuals. Unfortunately, as a telecom engineer we start to believe that these telecom operator career is the best and we should only go in this area of service and maintenance. Unfortunately, due to lack of R and D other opportunity doesn't grow in our society. In my opinion, you should be flexible in choosing a career. I must quote this example that during your bachelors you also studied Electromagne
are a lot of software house and they are doing projects of different clients from abroad. In my opinion, they are working more on the latest and state of the art technologies. So, you should also try to apply for development related jobs. Some companies are developing products for future telecommunication technologies. So, in my opinion they have better future prospects. Moreover, this area is not so much saturated as developers are needed in every society and you can easily move forward by just developing your skills everyday. From my company, there are a lot of people who went abroad for employment because of their experience and expertise in one of the future technology "LTE" development. So, you should open to any opportunity which will come in your way. The life always give you chances but these chances can be given in different areas. So, just take the opportunity and you will feel after sometimes that it was the best for you. Don't loose hope and
never feel yourself down. You have the qualification and for sure you will be benefited from this. This won't go waste. InshAllah you will get a job.
>
>
>Regards
>Abdul Hafeez
>
>
>
>___________
> Von: Sajjad Ur rehman bhatti <sajjad4bstelecom@
>An: "bs-telecom@yahoogro
>Gesendet: 22:10 Dienstag, 16.Oktober 2012
>Betreff: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
>Awais khawaja is right......!
>
>
>
>
>___________
> From: "innocent_cool39@
>To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
>Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 3:08 AM
>Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
>Agree wd zaheer
>*** This Message Has Been Sent Using BlackBerry Internet Service from Mobilink ***
>
>___________
>
>From: zaheer taj <zaheer321@yahoo.
>Sender: bs-telecom@yahoogro
>Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:04:55 -0700 (PDT)
>To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
>ReplyTo: bs-telecom@yahoogro
>Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
>Dear Awais Khawaja,
>I don't know what type of engineers you have worked with and what type of company worked for but I totally disagree with your point of view. Might be the organization where u have worked has such environment that where engineers are behaving like police hawaldar or patwari. But I think you have worked with low profile people or low profile company or there is some problem with your capabilities.
>My experience in telecom sector is totally different , I started from zero , I have learnt from seniors and also given whatever I could give to my Juniors.
>There are corrupt people in every department and every area in Pakistan , so telecom is not the exception, Telecom engineers doesn'
> Simple reason for limited Job opportunities
>My advise is that just enhance your skills and focus more on your job rather then blaming others.
>
>
>
>
>Best Regards
>Zaheer
>
>___________
> From: Awais Khawaja <awais.khuwaja@
>To: "bs-telecom@yahoogro
>Cc: "bs-telecom@yahoogro
>Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:52 PM
>Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
>You should work as internee in subcon. And wheneva you see any opportunity get yourself in. But for getting in any subcon you will have to prove your worth. No one would teach you there. You'll just have to follow engineers. Even, for learning something, you may have to buy cigarette/ cold drink/ tea for greedy engineers.
>Sent from my iPhone
>On Oct 4, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Ali Ahmed <aliahmedpatriot@
>
>>plz log on to http://www.pawa.
Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:23 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"syed jaffry" syed_jffry
Assalam-o-Alikum ,
I am following that post from the start and i think it is a better Platform for sharing the issues which fresh graduates are facing currently and in parallel to that the seniors guidance to them . I am agree what Mr. Hafeez said that why are you " limiting your self ". In that context i just want to add something, I have few questions to fresh graduates ..
What is a Telecom engineer ???
Is that mean a telecom engineer is limited to "Cellular communication" only if he successfully passed and got a degree he will only get job in " Telenor, Warid, Zong, ZTE" etc .... If this is rite then where you guys place
1. Satellite Communication
2. Radar Communication
3. Fiber Optic Communication
4. Radio Link Communication ( Which are used by normally by the banks)
I just want to say to new graduates don't be hopeless if you are getting any kind of jobs in the said fields you will still called " Telecom Engineer". Every telecom engineer studied "DATA COMM" by BEHROZ during their engineering if you are good in that then there is another field waiting for you " Networking" . You all have good concepts as compare to a local CCNA, regarding network basics, network layers and so on .... So by doing a simple ccna course you will get a good start and afterwards by doing CCNP you will get a good job in the market this field never ends it will continue Insha Allah.....
So Guys be Optimistic, Insha Allah every thing will be fine.
Regards,
Raza Jaffry
________________________________
From: Kashif Sami <kashifsami82@gmail.com >
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
you forgot to mention about Alcatel-Lucent which is currently hiring experience and Fresh graduates also.
Muhammad Kashif Sami
Integration Professional
PS/LTE Core & IP Division
EME & Africa QA & CC
Alcatel-Lucent, Saint Denis ,Reunion
France
kashif.sami@alcatel-lucent.pk
Q Please consider the environment
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On 17 October 2012 13:44, Abdul Hafeez <abdulhafeez_heat@yahoo.com > wrote:
>Assalam o alikum Everyone,
>
>
>I have been following this post and its really nice to see people sharing their experiences. First of all,
>
>
>@Mr. Zaheer: In the very first line you said to Mr. Awais that you totally disagree with his idea and later on you were saying that corruption is everywhere and Telecom sector is not an exception. This is exactly the point which Mr. Awais was highlighting that in the companies sometimes you have to go out of the way in order to ask useful information from seniors. If you had a good experience with your seniors, it doesn't mean that everyone is the same. Moreover, you also commented that this would happen in low profile companies. I really don't understand what do you mean by high profile and low profile. Sir, with due respect, I must say that its about the individuals not the company. I really don't know how do you rate Telenor, Ericsson, Huawei, ZTE and Mobilink. According to the people, these operators and vendors are considered as high profile. You can find cheap individuals in these companies as well, I have personally experienced but that's just my
experience so I can say that everyone is like that. Even in PTCL, if you have a chance to go there or if you work over there. There are still a lot of dirty politics in PTCL, although it has been privatised. So, the point is its all about attitude of an individual. You have to understand that this is a problem with us as a nation that if we are given some authorities, we misuse the authority. You can see this trend in all departments.
>
>
>Coming back to the query of getting job in telecom sector. Mr. Zaheer is absolutely right that there is a big saturation in the telecom operator and vendors side because there are no new projects on which they will hire individuals. Unfortunately, as a telecom engineer we start to believe that these telecom operator career is the best and we should only go in this area of service and maintenance. Unfortunately, due to lack of R and D other opportunity doesn't grow in our society. In my opinion, you should be flexible in choosing a career. I must quote this example that during your bachelors you also studied Electromagnetic theory, Signal and Image Processing, Electronics, Programming and computer architecture. Its not the case that you only study wireless communication, analog and digital communication and data communication. So, just be open to other opportunities in other fields too. Please do not restrict yourself to telecom operators only. There
are a lot of software house and they are doing projects of different clients from abroad. In my opinion, they are working more on the latest and state of the art technologies. So, you should also try to apply for development related jobs. Some companies are developing products for future telecommunication technologies. So, in my opinion they have better future prospects. Moreover, this area is not so much saturated as developers are needed in every society and you can easily move forward by just developing your skills everyday. From my company, there are a lot of people who went abroad for employment because of their experience and expertise in one of the future technology "LTE" development. So, you should open to any opportunity which will come in your way. The life always give you chances but these chances can be given in different areas. So, just take the opportunity and you will feel after sometimes that it was the best for you. Don't loose hope and
never feel yourself down. You have the qualification and for sure you will be benefited from this. This won't go waste. InshAllah you will get a job.
>
>
>Regards
>Abdul Hafeez
>
>
>
>________________________________
> Von: Sajjad Ur rehman bhatti <sajjad4bstelecom@yahoo.com >
>An: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com " <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
>Gesendet: 22:10 Dienstag, 16.Oktober 2012
>Betreff: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
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>Awais khawaja is right......!!!
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: "innocent_cool39@yahoo.com " <innocent_cool39@yahoo.com >
>To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 3:08 AM
>Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
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>Agree wd zaheer
>*** This Message Has Been Sent Using BlackBerry Internet Service from Mobilink ***
>________________________________
>
>From: zaheer taj <zaheer321@yahoo.com >
>Sender: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:04:55 -0700 (PDT)
>To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
>ReplyTo: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
>Dear Awais Khawaja,
>I don't know what type of engineers you have worked with and what type of company worked for but I totally disagree with your point of view. Might be the organization where u have worked has such environment that where engineers are behaving like police hawaldar or patwari. But I think you have worked with low profile people or low profile company or there is some problem with your capabilities.
>My experience in telecom sector is totally different , I started from zero , I have learnt from seniors and also given whatever I could give to my Juniors.
>There are corrupt people in every department and every area in Pakistan , so telecom is not the exception, Telecom engineers doesn't live on an other Ireland .
> Simple reason for limited Job opportunitiesis economic and security situation in Pakistan. There are no new projects like 3G, 4G so there are limited opportunities. About 8,9 years back telecom sector was the best sector and there was no unemployment just becoz of growing telecom networks.
>My advise is that just enhance your skills and focus more on your job rather then blaming others.
>
>
>
>
>Best Regards
>Zaheer
>
>________________________________
> From: Awais Khawaja <awais.khuwaja@yahoo.com >
>To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com " <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
>Cc: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com " <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
>Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:52 PM
>Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
>
>You should work as internee in subcon. And wheneva you see any opportunity get yourself in. But for getting in any subcon you will have to prove your worth. No one would teach you there. You'll just have to follow engineers. Even, for learning something, you may have to buy cigarette/ cold drink/ tea for greedy engineers.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Oct 4, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Ali Ahmed <aliahmedpatriot@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
>
>
>>plz log on to www.pawa.com
>>
>>is website pay jobs hi jobs hain telecom k leyay.....
>>
>>--- On Wed, 10/3/12, Rizwan Shabbir <rizwan.squreshi@gmail.com > wrote:
>>
>>From: Rizwan Shabbir <rizwan.squreshi@gmail.com >
>>Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>>To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
>>Date: Wednesday, October 3, 2012, 4:43 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>Dear all,
>>
>>Kindly share you experiances and suggest the fresh graduates "How to get a job in telecom sector".
>>
>>BR,
>>Rizwan Shabbir
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>
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--
Muhammad Kashif Sami
Packet Core
Alcatel-Lucent
I am following that post from the start and i think it is a better Platform for sharing the issues which fresh graduates are facing currently and in parallel to that the seniors guidance to them . I am agree what Mr. Hafeez said that why are you " limiting your self ". In that context i just want to add something, I have few questions to fresh graduates ..
What is a Telecom engineer ???
Is that mean a telecom engineer is limited to "Cellular communication" only if he successfully passed and got a degree he will only get job in " Telenor, Warid, Zong, ZTE" etc .... If this is rite then where you guys place
1. Satellite Communication
2. Radar Communication
3. Fiber Optic Communication
4. Radio Link Communication ( Which are used by normally by the banks)
I just want to say to new graduates don't be hopeless if you are getting any kind of jobs in the said fields you will still called " Telecom Engineer". Every telecom engineer studied "DATA COMM" by BEHROZ during their engineering if you are good in that then there is another field waiting for you " Networking" . You all have good concepts as compare to a local CCNA, regarding network basics, network layers and so on .... So by doing a simple ccna course you will get a good start and afterwards by doing CCNP you will get a good job in the market this field never ends it will continue Insha Allah.....
So Guys be Optimistic, Insha Allah every thing will be fine.
Regards,
Raza Jaffry
____________
From: Kashif Sami <kashifsami82@
To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
you forgot to mention about Alcatel-Lucent which is currently hiring experience and Fresh graduates also.
Muhammad Kashif Sami
Integration Professional
PS/LTE Core & IP Division
EME & Africa QA & CC
Alcatel-Lucent, Saint Denis ,Reunion
France
kashif.sami@
Q Please consider the environment
before printing this email
On 17 October 2012 13:44, Abdul Hafeez <abdulhafeez_
>Assalam o alikum Everyone,
>
>
>I have been following this post and its really nice to see people sharing their experiences. First of all,
>
>
>@Mr. Zaheer: In the very first line you said to Mr. Awais that you totally disagree with his idea and later on you were saying that corruption is everywhere and Telecom sector is not an exception. This is exactly the point which Mr. Awais was highlighting that in the companies sometimes you have to go out of the way in order to ask useful information from seniors. If you had a good experience with your seniors, it doesn't mean that everyone is the same. Moreover, you also commented that this would happen in low profile companies. I really don't understand what do you mean by high profile and low profile. Sir, with due respect, I must say that its about the individuals not the company. I really don't know how do you rate Telenor, Ericsson, Huawei, ZTE and Mobilink. According to the people, these operators and vendors are considered as high profile. You can find cheap individuals in these companies as well, I have personally experienced but that's just my
experience so I can say that everyone is like that. Even in PTCL, if you have a chance to go there or if you work over there. There are still a lot of dirty politics in PTCL, although it has been privatised. So, the point is its all about attitude of an individual. You have to understand that this is a problem with us as a nation that if we are given some authorities, we misuse the authority. You can see this trend in all departments.
>
>
>Coming back to the query of getting job in telecom sector. Mr. Zaheer is absolutely right that there is a big saturation in the telecom operator and vendors side because there are no new projects on which they will hire individuals. Unfortunately, as a telecom engineer we start to believe that these telecom operator career is the best and we should only go in this area of service and maintenance. Unfortunately, due to lack of R and D other opportunity doesn't grow in our society. In my opinion, you should be flexible in choosing a career. I must quote this example that during your bachelors you also studied Electromagne
are a lot of software house and they are doing projects of different clients from abroad. In my opinion, they are working more on the latest and state of the art technologies. So, you should also try to apply for development related jobs. Some companies are developing products for future telecommunication technologies. So, in my opinion they have better future prospects. Moreover, this area is not so much saturated as developers are needed in every society and you can easily move forward by just developing your skills everyday. From my company, there are a lot of people who went abroad for employment because of their experience and expertise in one of the future technology "LTE" development. So, you should open to any opportunity which will come in your way. The life always give you chances but these chances can be given in different areas. So, just take the opportunity and you will feel after sometimes that it was the best for you. Don't loose hope and
never feel yourself down. You have the qualification and for sure you will be benefited from this. This won't go waste. InshAllah you will get a job.
>
>
>Regards
>Abdul Hafeez
>
>
>
>___________
> Von: Sajjad Ur rehman bhatti <sajjad4bstelecom@
>An: "bs-telecom@yahoogro
>Gesendet: 22:10 Dienstag, 16.Oktober 2012
>Betreff: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
>
>Awais khawaja is right......!
>
>
>
>
>___________
> From: "innocent_cool39@
>To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
>Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 3:08 AM
>Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
>
>Agree wd zaheer
>*** This Message Has Been Sent Using BlackBerry Internet Service from Mobilink ***
>___________
>
>From: zaheer taj <zaheer321@yahoo.
>Sender: bs-telecom@yahoogro
>Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 23:04:55 -0700 (PDT)
>To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
>ReplyTo: bs-telecom@yahoogro
>Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
>Dear Awais Khawaja,
>I don't know what type of engineers you have worked with and what type of company worked for but I totally disagree with your point of view. Might be the organization where u have worked has such environment that where engineers are behaving like police hawaldar or patwari. But I think you have worked with low profile people or low profile company or there is some problem with your capabilities.
>My experience in telecom sector is totally different , I started from zero , I have learnt from seniors and also given whatever I could give to my Juniors.
>There are corrupt people in every department and every area in Pakistan , so telecom is not the exception, Telecom engineers doesn'
> Simple reason for limited Job opportunities
>My advise is that just enhance your skills and focus more on your job rather then blaming others.
>
>
>
>
>Best Regards
>Zaheer
>
>___________
> From: Awais Khawaja <awais.khuwaja@
>To: "bs-telecom@yahoogro
>Cc: "bs-telecom@yahoogro
>Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:52 PM
>Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>
>
>
>You should work as internee in subcon. And wheneva you see any opportunity get yourself in. But for getting in any subcon you will have to prove your worth. No one would teach you there. You'll just have to follow engineers. Even, for learning something, you may have to buy cigarette/ cold drink/ tea for greedy engineers.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Oct 4, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Ali Ahmed <aliahmedpatriot@
>
>
>
>>plz log on to www.pawa.com
>>
>>is website pay jobs hi jobs hain telecom k leyay.....
>>
>>--- On Wed, 10/3/12, Rizwan Shabbir <rizwan.squreshi@
>>
>>From: Rizwan Shabbir <rizwan.squreshi@
>>Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || How to get job in telecom sector
>>To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
>>Date: Wednesday, October 3, 2012, 4:43 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>Dear all,
>>
>>Kindly share you experiances and suggest the fresh graduates "How to get a job in telecom sector".
>>
>>BR,
>>Rizwan Shabbir
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Muhammad Kashif Sami
Packet Core
Alcatel-Lucent
Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:08 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jahan Zaib Saleem" zaib616
*Job || Web Developers @ Red Buffer, Islamabad*
Red Buffer is hiring entry level web developers, so freshers are welcome to
drop their resumes. Following are the skills that are required for the job:
� Open source server side scripting like php.
� UI technologies like HTML, CSS, jQuery, javascript, mustache and etc.
� Web Development concept like 3-tier architecture.
� Concept of the term API.
� Data communication standards (xml, JSON).
Traits that we are looking for in a candidate are dedication and good
learning ability.
*Send your resume at info@redbuffer.net *
--
Regards,,,
====================================================
====================================================
*Job || Technical Consultants @ Crowe Horwath Pakistan *
Dear All,
We, at Crowe Horwath Pakistan have a couple of vacancies for fresh
Graduates in our SAP Business One and Sage ACCPAC teams as Technical
Consultants. Crowe Horwath, Pakistan is the official partner of SAP and
Sage in Pakistan and have over 60 implementations across the country.
*POSITION*: Technical Consultant
*Job Location*: Lahore
*Education*: BS/MS Computer Science / Computer Engineering
*Industry*: Consultancy
*Experience*: Fresh - 1 year Experience
*Apply By*: 30th October 2012
*Job Description*:
As a Technical Consultant, you will be working with SAP Business One API
and Sage ACCPAC API designing and implementing add-ons.
*Technical Skills*:
1. Preferably experience with either C# or Java. Though C++ is fine too.
2. Good Object Oriented Programming concepts.
3. Experience with SQL queries.
4. Very good communication skills.
*Interested candidates should email their CVs' at:
Salman.Javaid@crowehorwath.pk *
Brief Company Profile:
Horwath Hussain Chaudhury & Co. Chartered Accountants is one of Pakistan�s
oldest and leading firms of Chartered Accountants and Management
Consultants having been established in 1947, the year of Pakistan�s
independence. We are a member of Horwath International, a top ten
international network of independent accounting and management consulting
firms. We work closely with our clients to gain a full understanding of
their business and personal objectives. With a focus on developing
long-term relationships we use our experience and skills to offer proactive
and relevant service and advice in order to help our clients.
Our major services include:
- Audit and Assurance services
- Consulting
- Tax consulting
- Corporate secretarial services
- Outsourcing
- Risk management
Best Regards,
Salman Javaid
Technical Consultant
Horwath Hussain Chaudhury & Co
Chartered Accountants
25 E Main Market, Gulberg II
Lahore 54660, Pakistan
+92.42.111.111.HHC (442) Main
+92.42.575.9226 Fax
====================================================
====================================================
*Job || Software Engineer @ Orient Electronics *
Assalamalaikum,
Orient Electronics PVT. LTD. is a leading home appliances manufacturing
company. We are involved in the designing and development of a number of
innovative projects and require resources for the post of Software Engineer.
*Job Post*: Software Engineer
*Number of positions available*: 2
*Minimum Requirements*:
*Education Level*: Bachelors in Computer Science/Masters in Computer
Science/or equivalent
*Experience*: 1-2 years (fresh graduates may also apply)
The candidate must be able to work in a fast paced environment with close
deadlines and learn new technologies and development techniques in a very
short period of time (a few days at most).
The candidate must have good communication skills and must have the passion
for all things related to technology and software engineering.
The candidate must also have worked in the following areas or must have
working knowledge:
� Web development:
? PHP,HTML/XHTML(including HTML5), CSS(including CSS3), MYSQL,
Javascript(AJAX), jQuery, WAMP, XAMPP, LAMP, codeigniter, cakephp,
zend,etc�, wordpress, joomla, drupal, etc...;
� Mobile Development:
? Android application development(JAVA based)
� Server Design and Development (Distributed Systems):
? Socket programming using:
? Berkely Sockets in C/C++, JAVA Sockets, Nodejs(Frameworks: railwayjs,
expressjs)
? Design and implemented of scalable and fool proof distributed systems
(must be concurrent and must be recoverable if failure occurs)
Furthermore, the candidate must be able to design and implement the logic
for systems varying of different types and sizes and also must have
knowledge about principles of software engineering, object oriented
programming and database design.
*Apply at: **mneguib@orient.com.pk * <mneguib@orient.com.pk >
Regards,
Mustafa Neguib
Software Engineer
Orient Group of Companies
Cell: 0092-322-4138957 | UAN: 0092-42-111-111-660 (ext: 122)
Address: 26 km, Multan Road, Lahore, Pakistan. Click here to see Map<
http://www.ogc.com.pk/find-us/head-office/ >
Web: www.orient.com.pk <http://www.ogc.com.pk > | Social: Facebook<
http://www.facebook.com/ogc >�Twitter <http://twitter.com/ogcpk > � YouTube<
http://www.youtube.com/user/ogcpk >
====================================================
====================================================
Job || Software Engineer & Web Developers @ cognitiveaxis
Dear All,
We here at Cognitive Axis are in need of a resource who possess skills and
can be an addition to our team. Kindly forward your Resume/CV at your
earliest to careers@cognitiveaxis.com .
*Required*: Software Engineer (Web Developer)
*Position*: 1
*Requirement*
- Good knowledge of Web Development Standards and Technologies
- Knowledge and experience in PHP and PHP frameworks like Drupal, WordPress
and Joomla is a plus.
- Good grip of CSS, Javsscript, JQuery , XML etc.
*Responsibilities*
- Requirement Analysis.
- Understanding of Current Web Application.
- Follow and maintain design and coding standards.
- Complete tasks assigned as per time lines.
- Debugging and fixing any issues in the Web Application.
*Educational /Experience Requirements
*- Minimum Bachelor of Science (Computer Science) degree or equivalent.
- With experience in Web Development (Fresh Graduates can also apply)
Best
--
Abdul Muiz Meer
Software Engineer
Cognitive Axis
====================================================
====================================================
--
Best Regards,,,
*Jahan Zaib Saleem*
http://telecom-life.blogspot.com/
http://zumbeel.net/blog/whatithink/
Red Buffer is hiring entry level web developers, so freshers are welcome to
drop their resumes. Following are the skills that are required for the job:
� Open source server side scripting like php.
� UI technologies like HTML, CSS, jQuery, javascript, mustache and etc.
� Web Development concept like 3-tier architecture.
� Concept of the term API.
� Data communication standards (xml, JSON).
Traits that we are looking for in a candidate are dedication and good
learning ability.
*Send your resume at info@redbuffer.
--
Regards,,,
============
============
*Job || Technical Consultants @ Crowe Horwath Pakistan *
Dear All,
We, at Crowe Horwath Pakistan have a couple of vacancies for fresh
Graduates in our SAP Business One and Sage ACCPAC teams as Technical
Consultants. Crowe Horwath, Pakistan is the official partner of SAP and
Sage in Pakistan and have over 60 implementations across the country.
*POSITION*: Technical Consultant
*Job Location*: Lahore
*Education*: BS/MS Computer Science / Computer Engineering
*Industry*: Consultancy
*Experience*
*Apply By*: 30th October 2012
*Job Description*
As a Technical Consultant, you will be working with SAP Business One API
and Sage ACCPAC API designing and implementing add-ons.
*Technical Skills*:
1. Preferably experience with either C# or Java. Though C++ is fine too.
2. Good Object Oriented Programming concepts.
3. Experience with SQL queries.
4. Very good communication skills.
*Interested candidates should email their CVs' at:
Salman.Javaid@
Brief Company Profile:
Horwath Hussain Chaudhury & Co. Chartered Accountants is one of Pakistan�s
oldest and leading firms of Chartered Accountants and Management
Consultants having been established in 1947, the year of Pakistan�s
independence. We are a member of Horwath International, a top ten
international network of independent accounting and management consulting
firms. We work closely with our clients to gain a full understanding of
their business and personal objectives. With a focus on developing
long-term relationships we use our experience and skills to offer proactive
and relevant service and advice in order to help our clients.
Our major services include:
- Audit and Assurance services
- Consulting
- Tax consulting
- Corporate secretarial services
- Outsourcing
- Risk management
Best Regards,
Salman Javaid
Technical Consultant
Horwath Hussain Chaudhury & Co
Chartered Accountants
25 E Main Market, Gulberg II
Lahore 54660, Pakistan
+92.42.111.111.
+92.42.575.9226 Fax
============
============
*Job || Software Engineer @ Orient Electronics *
Assalamalaikum,
Orient Electronics PVT. LTD. is a leading home appliances manufacturing
company. We are involved in the designing and development of a number of
innovative projects and require resources for the post of Software Engineer.
*Job Post*: Software Engineer
*Number of positions available*: 2
*Minimum Requirements*
*Education Level*: Bachelors in Computer Science/Masters in Computer
Science/or equivalent
*Experience*
The candidate must be able to work in a fast paced environment with close
deadlines and learn new technologies and development techniques in a very
short period of time (a few days at most).
The candidate must have good communication skills and must have the passion
for all things related to technology and software engineering.
The candidate must also have worked in the following areas or must have
working knowledge:
� Web development:
? PHP,HTML/XHTML(
Javascript(AJAX)
zend,etc�, wordpress, joomla, drupal, etc...;
� Mobile Development:
? Android application development(
� Server Design and Development (Distributed Systems):
? Socket programming using:
? Berkely Sockets in C/C++, JAVA Sockets, Nodejs(Frameworks: railwayjs,
expressjs)
? Design and implemented of scalable and fool proof distributed systems
(must be concurrent and must be recoverable if failure occurs)
Furthermore, the candidate must be able to design and implement the logic
for systems varying of different types and sizes and also must have
knowledge about principles of software engineering, object oriented
programming and database design.
*Apply at: **mneguib@orient.
Regards,
Mustafa Neguib
Software Engineer
Orient Group of Companies
Cell: 0092-322-4138957 | UAN: 0092-42-111-
Address: 26 km, Multan Road, Lahore, Pakistan. Click here to see Map<
http://www.ogc.
Web: www.orient.com.
http://www.facebook
http://www.youtube.
============
============
Job || Software Engineer & Web Developers @ cognitiveaxis
Dear All,
We here at Cognitive Axis are in need of a resource who possess skills and
can be an addition to our team. Kindly forward your Resume/CV at your
earliest to careers@cognitiveax
*Required*: Software Engineer (Web Developer)
*Position*: 1
*Requirement*
- Good knowledge of Web Development Standards and Technologies
- Knowledge and experience in PHP and PHP frameworks like Drupal, WordPress
and Joomla is a plus.
- Good grip of CSS, Javsscript, JQuery , XML etc.
*Responsibilities*
- Requirement Analysis.
- Understanding of Current Web Application.
- Follow and maintain design and coding standards.
- Complete tasks assigned as per time lines.
- Debugging and fixing any issues in the Web Application.
*Educational /Experience Requirements
*- Minimum Bachelor of Science (Computer Science) degree or equivalent.
- With experience in Web Development (Fresh Graduates can also apply)
Best
--
Abdul Muiz Meer
Software Engineer
Cognitive Axis
============
============
--
Best Regards,,,
*Jahan Zaib Saleem*
http://telecom-
http://zumbeel.
Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:39 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jahan Zaib Saleem" zaib616
*Job || Electrical Engineer / Survellience/Technical Officer || Misc*
Find attaced ads for details.
--
Best Regards,,,
Jahan Zaib Saleem
http://telecom-life.blogspot.com/
http://zumbeel.net/blog/whatithink/
Find attaced ads for details.
--
Best Regards,,,
Jahan Zaib Saleem
http://telecom-
http://zumbeel.
Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:41 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jahan Zaib Saleem" zaib616
*Job || Asstt. Network Administrator || University of Punjab Lahore*
Find attached ad for details.
--
Best Regards,,,
Jahan Zaib Saleem
http://telecom-life.blogspot.com/
http://zumbeel.net/blog/whatithink/
Find attached ad for details.
--
Best Regards,,,
Jahan Zaib Saleem
http://telecom-
http://zumbeel.
Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:43 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jahan Zaib Saleem" zaib616
*Job || UNIX Administrator / Programmer Analyst || NRSP Bank (Fresh can
apply)*
Find attached ad for details.
--
Best Regards,,,
Jahan Zaib Saleem
http://telecom-life.blogspot.com/
http://zumbeel.net/blog/whatithink/
apply)*
Find attached ad for details.
--
Best Regards,,,
Jahan Zaib Saleem
http://telecom-
http://zumbeel.
Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:46 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"asad iqbal" asad_uetian
Wa-Alaikumussalam!
Definitely u can go for Telecom companies Engineering and IT depts. But you may need some self study to prosper in test/interview...Besides, it would be best to get an internship right now & learn as much as u can and side by side try for a job too...
Regards
Asad
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From: Muhammad Haris <haris_zafar1@yahoo.com >
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com " <bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 6:27 PM
Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || Hiring in Telecom Companies
AoA,
I have recently done Bsc Electrical Engineering with specializationin Computer Engineering (Network security,Network Programming).
Can I go for telecom companies or they only require telecom engineers ?? . Help me in this regard...
Best Regards,
Haris
Definitely u can go for Telecom companies Engineering and IT depts. But you may need some self study to prosper in test/interview.
Regards
Asad
____________
From: Muhammad Haris <haris_zafar1@
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogro
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 6:27 PM
Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || Hiring in Telecom Companies
AoA,
I have recently done Bsc Electrical Engineering with specialization
Can I go for telecom companies or they only require telecom engineers ?? . Help me in this regard...
Best Regards,
Haris
Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:51 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Abid Nazir" abidnazir89
A.o.A
How can i download red hat linux 6 enterprise edition for laptop for free, can anyone please give me the link to any blog/site, or share the software? i am not able to buy that software but i desperatelyneed it. thanks in advance.
Muhammad Abid
abidnazir89@yahoo.com
How can i download red hat linux 6 enterprise edition for laptop for free, can anyone please give me the link to any blog/site, or share the software? i am not able to buy that software but i desperately
Muhammad Abid
abidnazir89@
Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:14 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jahan Zaib Saleem" zaib616
*Job || Multiple IT Roles || Misc*
Find attached ads for details.
--
Best Regards,,,
Jahan Zaib Saleem
http://telecom-life.blogspot.com/
http://zumbeel.net/blog/whatithink/
Find attached ads for details.
--
Best Regards,,,
Jahan Zaib Saleem
http://telecom-
http://zumbeel.
Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:44 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Jahan Zaib Saleem" zaib616
http://careers.telenor.com.pk/Page/Detail/Default.aspx
*Current Vacancies *[Login to apply]
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Activations Support Officer -
Contractual<javascript:__doPostBack('M$C$Default1$ctrlVacancy$gdvVacancyForm$ctl02$lnkVacancyTitle','')>
Customer Relations
Officer
Lahore
31-Oct-2012
PS Core Planning
Specialist<javascript:__doPostBack('M$C$Default1$ctrlVacancy$gdvVacancyForm$ctl03$lnkVacancyTitle','')>
Network Services
Executive
Islamabad
31-Oct-2012
BI Application Services Officer
(Contractual)<javascript:__doPostBack('M$C$Default1$ctrlVacancy$gdvVacancyForm$ctl04$lnkVacancyTitle','')>
Business Intelligence
Officer
Islamabad
29-Oct-2012
HSSE Expert-Construction
(Contractual)<javascript:__doPostBack('M$C$Default1$ctrlVacancy$gdvVacancyForm$ctl05$lnkVacancyTitle','')>
Health & Safety & Environment
Assistant Manager
Islamabad
28-Oct-2012
IP Core Planning
Specialist<javascript:__doPostBack('M$C$Default1$ctrlVacancy$gdvVacancyForm$ctl06$lnkVacancyTitle','')>
Network Services
Executive
Islamabad
28-Oct-2012
Relationship Officer
(contractual)<javascript:__doPostBack('M$C$Default1$ctrlVacancy$gdvVacancyForm$ctl07$lnkVacancyTitle','')>
Customer Relations
Officer
Multan
24-Oct-2012
Data Network Operation Officer
(Contractual)<javascript:__doPostBack('M$C$Default1$ctrlVacancy$gdvVacancyForm$ctl08$lnkVacancyTitle','')>
Network Operations
Officer
Islamabad
23-Oct-2012
Device Executive<javascript:__doPostBack('M$C$Default1$ctrlVacancy$gdvVacancyForm$ctl09$lnkVacancyTitle','')>
Value Added Services
Executive
Islamabad
23-Oct-2012
Sales Support Officer ( Contractual
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Sales & Distribution
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Faisalabad
23-Oct-2012
Tax Executive<javascript:__doPostBack('M$C$Default1$ctrlVacancy$gdvVacancyForm$ctl11$lnkVacancyTitle','')>
Financial Operations
Executive
Islamabad
23-Oct-2012
Web Developer (Contractual)<javascript:__doPostBack('M$C$Default1$ctrlVacancy$gdvVacancyForm$ctl12$lnkVacancyTitle','')>
IT Solutions
Officer
Islamabad
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Power Planning Specialist<javascript:__doPostBack('M$C$Default1$ctrlVacancy$gdvVacancyForm$ctl13$lnkVacancyTitle','')>
Network Operations
Executive
Islamabad
22-Oct-2012
Direct Business Officer
(Contractual)<javascript:__doPostBack('M$C$Default1$ctrlVacancy$gdvVacancyForm$ctl14$lnkVacancyTitle','')>
Sales & Distribution
Officer
hyderabad
21-Oct-2012
Field Operations
Executive<javascript:__doPostBack('M$C$Default1$ctrlVacancy$gdvVacancyForm$ctl15$lnkVacancyTitle','')>
Network Operations
Executive
Islamabad
21-Oct-2012
RF Executive<javascript:__doPostBack('M$C$Default1$ctrlVacancy$gdvVacancyForm$ctl16$lnkVacancyTitle','')>
Radio Frequency
Executive
Lahore
21-Oct-2012
Junior Middleware Developer
(Contractual)<javascript:__doPostBack('M$C$Default1$ctrlVacancy$gdvVacancyForm$ctl17$lnkVacancyTitle','')>
Quality & Service Assurance, IT Solutions & Software Development
Officer
Islamabad
19-Oct-2012
Power Implementation Engineer
(Contractual)<javascript:__doPostBack('M$C$Default1$ctrlVacancy$gdvVacancyForm$ctl18$lnkVacancyTitle','')>
Network Operations
Officer
Islamabad
19-Oct-2012
Segment Officer¿ Urban
Youth<javascript:__doPostBack('M$C$Default1$ctrlVacancy$gdvVacancyForm$ctl19$lnkVacancyTitle','')>
Marketing
Officer
Islamabad
19-Oct-2012
Tariff Implementation Support
Officer<javascript:__doPostBack('M$C$Default1$ctrlVacancy$gdvVacancyForm$ctl20$lnkVacancyTitle','')>
Long Distance International
Officer
Islamabad
19-Oct-2012
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Best Regards,,,
*Jahan Zaib Saleem*
http://telecom-life.blogspot.com/
http://zumbeel.net/blog/whatithink/
*Current Vacancies *[Login to apply]
Vacancy Area Of Interest Career Level Location Deadline
Activations Support Officer -
Contractual<
Customer Relations
Officer
Lahore
31-Oct-2012
PS Core Planning
Specialist<javascri
Network Services
Executive
Islamabad
31-Oct-2012
BI Application Services Officer
(Contractual)
Business Intelligence
Officer
Islamabad
29-Oct-2012
HSSE Expert-Construction
(Contractual)
Health & Safety & Environment
Assistant Manager
Islamabad
28-Oct-2012
IP Core Planning
Specialist<javascri
Network Services
Executive
Islamabad
28-Oct-2012
Relationship Officer
(contractual)
Customer Relations
Officer
Multan
24-Oct-2012
Data Network Operation Officer
(Contractual)
Network Operations
Officer
Islamabad
23-Oct-2012
Device Executive<javascrip
Value Added Services
Executive
Islamabad
23-Oct-2012
Sales Support Officer ( Contractual
)<javascript:
Sales & Distribution
Officer
Faisalabad
23-Oct-2012
Tax Executive<javascrip
Financial Operations
Executive
Islamabad
23-Oct-2012
Web Developer (Contractual)
IT Solutions
Officer
Islamabad
23-Oct-2012
Power Planning Specialist<javascri
Network Operations
Executive
Islamabad
22-Oct-2012
Direct Business Officer
(Contractual)
Sales & Distribution
Officer
hyderabad
21-Oct-2012
Field Operations
Executive<javascrip
Network Operations
Executive
Islamabad
21-Oct-2012
RF Executive<javascrip
Radio Frequency
Executive
Lahore
21-Oct-2012
Junior Middleware Developer
(Contractual)
Quality & Service Assurance, IT Solutions & Software Development
Officer
Islamabad
19-Oct-2012
Power Implementation Engineer
(Contractual)
Network Operations
Officer
Islamabad
19-Oct-2012
Segment Officer¿ Urban
Youth<javascript:
Marketing
Officer
Islamabad
19-Oct-2012
Tariff Implementation Support
Officer<javascript:
Long Distance International
Officer
Islamabad
19-Oct-2012
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Best Regards,,,
*Jahan Zaib Saleem*
http://telecom-
http://zumbeel.
Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:23 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"KHURRAM AR" best_683
>
> Dear All;
>
plz tell me if nayone received any response or call
from QATAR embassy , about those interviews which were held in June 2012 at
QATAR embassy, islamabad.
--
Best Wishes,
Khurram Abdul Rahman
Datacom Engineer (Multan)
Managed Services Department, HUAWEI.
Mobile: 0092-333-4418920
Email: dckhurram@gmail.com
> Dear All;
>
plz tell me if nayone received any response or call
from QATAR embassy , about those interviews which were held in June 2012 at
QATAR embassy, islamabad.
--
Best Wishes,
Khurram Abdul Rahman
Datacom Engineer (Multan)
Managed Services Department, HUAWEI.
Mobile: 0092-333-4418920
Email: dckhurram@gmail.
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