Messages In This Digest (9 Messages)
- 1a.
- Re: Hughs & Direct TV From: Bill Adams
- 1b.
- Re: Hughs & Direct TV From: Gary Smith
- 1c.
- Re: Hughs & Direct TV From: Barb Nolley
- 1d.
- Re: Hughs & Direct TV From: Don Bradner
- 1e.
- Re: Hughs & Direct TV From: Barb Nolley
- 1f.
- Re: Hughs & Direct TV From: Don Bradner
- 2a.
- Least Cost Option? From: Janice
- 2b.
- Re: Least Cost Option? From: Don Bradner
- 2c.
- Re: Least Cost Option? From: Paul Miller
Messages
- 1a.
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Re: Hughs & Direct TV
Posted by: "Bill Adams" Bill@internetanywhere.us r_v_satellites
Sat May 5, 2012 8:18 am (PDT)
Why are you paying $107 for basic service when basic service starts at
$59/month?
From: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups. com
[mailto:RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups. ] On Behalf Of charlescom
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 4:15 PM
To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [RVInternetBySatellite] Hughs & Direct TV
I have just got back from the Philippines after 4 years and am disappointed
that I cannot use the same dish to get Hughs and Direct TV. Hughs is a real
disappointment in that the price has doubled and is much worse in that I
keep getting down to zero on my Hughesnet status meter(which we never even
had in the past) wanting $7.50 to buy a token to get the meter and internet
back! I was paying around $65.00 a month for better Hughesnet service in
2003 to 2007 and now paying $107.00 for basic service thats crap! All I use
my computer is e-mail and yahoo news and Hughsnet keeps saying I exceeded my
downloads, etc. I will be heading out West in my RV in June needing to set
up 2 satellite dishes instead of 1 in the past! Anything better out there
where I can use one dish for both internet and TV? One dish was bad enough
having to transport and set up----now 2!!!
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- 1b.
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Re: Hughs & Direct TV
Posted by: "Gary Smith" trekker01@gmail.com trekkersmith1
Sat May 5, 2012 8:41 am (PDT)
Charles,
I am guessing that your $107 a month figure is for the DirecTV? Hughes and DirecTV are two totally separate companies, not related to each other. Basic service from Hughes is around $70 a month (or is it $60?). Basic service with DirecTV starts at around $30 a month. Hughes gives you internet. DirecTV gives you TV. I am paying about $80 a month for Hughes (425MB/day, no tokens possible). I am paying about $110 a month for DTV, including a HDDVR and 2 extra HD receivers, with an entertainment package that includes everything except the premium channels. I live in a stick house, and take my Hughes modem and DirecTV HD receiver with me in the RV when traveling. In the RV, I am getting both Internet (from Hughes) and HDTV (from DTV) using one antenna, with separate LNB mounted for the HDTV. My antenna is the older .74 meter fiberglass, not the newer metal dishes.
What satellite are you on for Internet? What DTV service do you have? If your Internet satellite is between 83W and 117W, you should be able to get both on one dish. If you want HD, your Internet options are a little more restricted because the SL3 LNB can't physically get close enough to the Hughes LNB to cover about 6 degrees either side of 101W, while the lipstick LNB or regular LNB for SD can cover down to a 2 degree spread.
Oh, by the way, you need to be using the HN7000s modem from Hughes...no other, as the older modems can't be commissioned, and the newer ones are not mobile capable, as they are spot beamed.
Gary
From: charles
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 7:15 PM
To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [RVInternetBySatellite] Hughs & Direct TV
I have just got back from the Philippines after 4 years and am disappointed that I cannot use the same dish to get Hughs and Direct TV. Hughs is a real disappointment in that the price has doubled and is much worse in that I keep getting down to zero on my Hughesnet status meter(which we never even had in the past) wanting $7.50 to buy a token to get the meter and internet back! I was paying around $65.00 a month for better Hughesnet service in 2003 to 2007 and now paying $107.00 for basic service thats crap! All I use my computer is e-mail and yahoo news and Hughsnet keeps saying I exceeded my downloads, etc. I will be heading out West in my RV in June needing to set up 2 satellite dishes instead of 1 in the past! Anything better out there where I can use one dish for both internet and TV? One dish was bad enough having to transport and set up----now 2!!!
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- 1c.
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Re: Hughs & Direct TV
Posted by: "Barb Nolley" bjnolley@mobileinternetsatellite.com bjnolley2
Sat May 5, 2012 9:10 am (PDT)
As long as you have the older fiberglass dish, you can still get a TV attachment for the dish setup.
But, as mentioned, the TV service is completely separate ... between you and DirecTV.
Internet service is between you and HughesNet and starts at $59.99 per month.
The StarBand Internet service is a bit more stable for tripod users and you can get installer certified for no charge BUT there is no TV attachment available.
From: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups. [mailto:RVInternetBySatellicom te@yahoogroups. ] On Behalf Of Gary Smithcom
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 8:41 AM
To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [RVInternetBySatellite] Hughs & Direct TV
Charles,
I am guessing that your $107 a month figure is for the DirecTV? Hughes and DirecTV are two totally separate companies, not related to each other. Basic service from Hughes is around $70 a month (or is it $60?). Basic service with DirecTV starts at around $30 a month. Hughes gives you internet. DirecTV gives you TV. I am paying about $80 a month for Hughes (425MB/day, no tokens possible). I am paying about $110 a month for DTV, including a HDDVR and 2 extra HD receivers, with an entertainment package that includes everything except the premium channels. I live in a stick house, and take my Hughes modem and DirecTV HD receiver with me in the RV when traveling. In the RV, I am getting both Internet (from Hughes) and HDTV (from DTV) using one antenna, with separate LNB mounted for the HDTV. My antenna is the older .74 meter fiberglass, not the newer metal dishes.
What satellite are you on for Internet? What DTV service do you have? If your Internet satellite is between 83W and 117W, you should be able to get both on one dish. If you want HD, your Internet options are a little more restricted because the SL3 LNB can't physically get close enough to the Hughes LNB to cover about 6 degrees either side of 101W, while the lipstick LNB or regular LNB for SD can cover down to a 2 degree spread.
Oh, by the way, you need to be using the HN7000s modem from Hughes...no other, as the older modems can't be commissioned, and the newer ones are not mobile capable, as they are spot beamed.
Gary
From: charles
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 7:15 PM
To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups. <mailto:RVInternetBcom ySatellite% 40yahoogroups. com>
Subject: [RVInternetBySatellite] Hughs & Direct TV
I have just got back from the Philippines after 4 years and am disappointed that I cannot use the same dish to get Hughs and Direct TV. Hughs is a real disappointment in that the price has doubled and is much worse in that I keep getting down to zero on my Hughesnet status meter(which we never even had in the past) wanting $7.50 to buy a token to get the meter and internet back! I was paying around $65.00 a month for better Hughesnet service in 2003 to 2007 and now paying $107.00 for basic service thats crap! All I use my computer is e-mail and yahoo news and Hughsnet keeps saying I exceeded my downloads, etc. I will be heading out West in my RV in June needing to set up 2 satellite dishes instead of 1 in the past! Anything better out there where I can use one dish for both internet and TV? One dish was bad enough having to transport and set up----now 2!!!
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- 1d.
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Re: Hughs & Direct TV
Posted by: "Don Bradner" donb@arcatapet.com donbradner
Sat May 5, 2012 9:14 am (PDT)
It sounds like you may have had new service installed, and they used a 9000 modem (which they would always do if you didn't say anything).
If that is the case you need to know that you cannot move that service with your RV, period. If you are still in the 30-month cancellation window, do it now!
On 5/4/2012 at 11:15 PM charles wrote:
>I have just got back from the Philippines after 4 years and am
>disappointed that I cannot use the same dish to get Hughs and Direct TV.
>Hughs is a real disappointment in that the price has doubled and is much
>worse in that I keep getting down to zero on my Hughesnet status
>meter(which we never even had in the past) wanting $7.50 to buy a token to
>get the meter and internet back! I was paying around $65.00 a month for
>better Hughesnet service in 2003 to 2007 and now paying $107.00 for basic
>service thats crap! All I use my computer is e-mail and yahoo news and
>Hughsnet keeps saying I exceeded my downloads, etc. I will be heading out
>West in my RV in June needing to set up 2 satellite dishes instead of 1 in
>the past! Anything better out there where I can use one dish for both
>internet and TV? One dish was bad enough having to transport and set
>up----now 2!!!
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>Yahoo! Groups Links
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Don Bradner
www.arcatapet.net
- 1e.
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Re: Hughs & Direct TV
Posted by: "Barb Nolley" bjnolley@mobileinternetsatellite.com bjnolley2
Sat May 5, 2012 9:36 am (PDT)
Do you mean 30-DAY cancellation window? ;-)
Barb
MobileInternetSatellite.com
From: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups. com
[mailto:RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups. ] On Behalf Of Don Bradnercom
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 9:15 AM
To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [RVInternetBySatellite] Hughs & Direct TV
It sounds like you may have had new service installed, and they used a 9000
modem (which they would always do if you didn't say anything).
If that is the case you need to know that you cannot move that service with
your RV, period. If you are still in the 30-month cancellation window, do it
now!
On 5/4/2012 at 11:15 PM charles wrote:
>I have just got back from the Philippines after 4 years and am
>disappointed that I cannot use the same dish to get Hughs and Direct TV.
>Hughs is a real disappointment in that the price has doubled and is much
>worse in that I keep getting down to zero on my Hughesnet status
>meter(which we never even had in the past) wanting $7.50 to buy a token to
>get the meter and internet back! I was paying around $65.00 a month for
>better Hughesnet service in 2003 to 2007 and now paying $107.00 for basic
>service thats crap! All I use my computer is e-mail and yahoo news and
>Hughsnet keeps saying I exceeded my downloads, etc. I will be heading out
>West in my RV in June needing to set up 2 satellite dishes instead of 1 in
>the past! Anything better out there where I can use one dish for both
>internet and TV? One dish was bad enough having to transport and set
>up----now 2!!!
>
>
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Re: Hughs & Direct TV
Posted by: "Don Bradner" donb@arcatapet.com donbradner
Sat May 5, 2012 9:41 am (PDT)
Whoops! I guess 30 months could be overly generous on a 24-month contract...
On 5/5/2012 at 9:36 AM Barb Nolley wrote:
>Do you mean 30-DAY cancellation window? ;-)
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>Barb
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>MobileInternetSatellite.com
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>From: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups. com
>[mailto:RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups. ] On Behalf Of Don Bradnercom
>Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 9:15 AM
>To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups. com
>Subject: Re: [RVInternetBySatellite] Hughs & Direct TV
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>It sounds like you may have had new service installed, and they used a 9000
>modem (which they would always do if you didn't say anything).
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>If that is the case you need to know that you cannot move that service with
>your RV, period. If you are still in the 30-month cancellation window, do
>it
>now!
>
>On 5/4/2012 at 11:15 PM charles wrote:
>
>>I have just got back from the Philippines after 4 years and am
>>disappointed that I cannot use the same dish to get Hughs and Direct TV.
>>Hughs is a real disappointment in that the price has doubled and is much
>>worse in that I keep getting down to zero on my Hughesnet status
>>meter(which we never even had in the past) wanting $7.50 to buy a token to
>>get the meter and internet back! I was paying around $65.00 a month for
>>better Hughesnet service in 2003 to 2007 and now paying $107.00 for basic
>>service thats crap! All I use my computer is e-mail and yahoo news and
>>Hughsnet keeps saying I exceeded my downloads, etc. I will be heading out
>>West in my RV in June needing to set up 2 satellite dishes instead of 1 in
>>the past! Anything better out there where I can use one dish for both
>>internet and TV? One dish was bad enough having to transport and set
>>up----now 2!!!
>>
>>
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Don Bradner
www.arcatapet.net
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Least Cost Option?
Posted by: "Janice" janice_fleenorsmith@yahoo.com janice_fleenorsmith
Sat May 5, 2012 9:54 am (PDT)
My husband and I will be buying a travel trailer in the next few months with the intent of becoming full-time RVers by the end of the year. Our budget is tight and we'd love to have recommendations on the least cost options for TV and internet service on the road. We have cell phone coverage with Consumer Cellular, so no data plans or smart phones to substitute for internet access. I'm a genealogist, requiring internet access for my work, so please include cautions as to limits on internet time if they apply to your suggestion for service. We're shopping for a light weight travel trailer to be pulled by our GMC Sierra 5.3L V8 extended cab truck with weight restrictions of 6800 trailer wgt. and 12,000 GCWR. If you have a suggestion for a trailer, we'd be very interested in hearing that too. Thanks.
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Re: Least Cost Option?
Posted by: "Don Bradner" donb@arcatapet.com donbradner
Sat May 5, 2012 10:10 am (PDT)
The general purpose of this group is for satellite internet, but as things have evolved it is likely that most of use other methods in addition to, or in place of, satellite.
There are plenty of people who need satellite; need it because they spend time in areas that do not have other choices. That is becoming a minority, however. My recommendation would be to go cellular, and only consider satellite if you find that cellular does not meet your needs. You can't be sure until you try.
The cellular should be Verizon (greatest coverage), and can be in the form of an air card, a MiFi (which rebroadcasts the cellular as WiFi in your RV), or a smartphone tethered to the computer.
Neither Cellular nor satellite have any limitations on internet "time" - they can be on 24 hours per day. Both have limitations on total data. For Hughes satellite it is daily, for Starband satellite it is weekly, and for cellular it is monthly. It is unlikely that genealogy would run afoul of the limitations; it is large file downloads and streaming video that hit the hardest.
On 5/5/2012 at 4:43 PM Janice wrote:
>My husband and I will be buying a travel trailer in the next few months
>with the intent of becoming full-time RVers by the end of the year. Our
>budget is tight and we'd love to have recommendations on the least cost
>options for TV and internet service on the road. We have cell phone
>coverage with Consumer Cellular, so no data plans or smart phones to
>substitute for internet access. I'm a genealogist, requiring internet
>access for my work, so please include cautions as to limits on internet
>time if they apply to your suggestion for service. We're shopping for a
>light weight travel trailer to be pulled by our GMC Sierra 5.3L V8
>extended cab truck with weight restrictions of 6800 trailer wgt. and
>12,000 GCWR. If you have a suggestion for a trailer, we'd be very
>interested in hearing that too. Thanks.
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>Yahoo! Groups Links
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Don Bradner
www.arcatapet.net
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Re: Least Cost Option?
Posted by: "Paul Miller" miller.sunset@gmail.com size12d2008
Sat May 5, 2012 10:32 am (PDT)
Always sounds interesting when people brake the form and step out and do
their dream...good for you...
We are not full timers but do a lot of extended stay rving..will not be in
the rv as much this year but had been in it 8-9 months out of the
year..have a few things at home that need tended to this summer..
I don't know if you already have a satellite system or not...if not I have
an almost new system that has been used very little..and would love to see
someone have it who can and will use and enjoy it...
If you have an interest contact at miller.sunset(at)gmail. com ..
Enjoy your new adventure, wishing you the very best,
Paul
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