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Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:40 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Alex" idahojoat
Well thanks again to all that have helped... I hit "search" a few times and go figure, i am online for the first time in months in my "live in" RV... I wish i could understand what the problem was.
I know that the modem did not have the right "location"
Any information would be appreciated.
Alex
--- In RVInternetBySatelli
>
> The controller either works correctly or it doesn't. You can't make it work correctly. It is entirely possible that it will work correctly most of the time, which is why I suggested just hitting search again. It is also possible that it has stopped working correctly completely. In the latter case you have two options: switch to your other controller, or manually set the position (DSSatTool).
>
> On 6/15/2013 at 3:07 PM Alex wrote:
>
> >OK i guess i am not quite understanding.
> >tell the modem where i am at? when i use the modem in my other RV, the one
> >i use for traveling, it works fine. in fact the last time i used it was
> >just north of Holbrook AZ on the Navajo reservation over the memorial day
> >weekend. I have two controllers, do i need to start moving a single
> >controller with the modem now? the way i have been doing this is i have
> >two complete systems, 2 F1 / 2 D2 controllers and 2 routers, i would just
> >move the modem from one to the other depending on my needs and travels...
> >sounds like i need to change the way i do things... please let me know....
> >
> >
> >Alex
> >
> >--- In RVInternetBySatelli
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> The way it is *supposed* to work: The D2 uses GPS to determine its
> >location. The D2 passes that location to the modem.
> >>
> >> Frequently, particularly with old controllers, this is not happening.
> >When it doesn't happen, you can't range, simple as that.
> >>
> >> Bill recommended my DSAdmin for this, but it isn't the right program. If
> >you can't get the D2 to pass the location (you can always hit search to
> >peak up, since it is right when you hit search that the location is
> >passed) then you need to do the same thing tripod users do. The program
> >for that is DSSatTool.
> >>
> >> On 6/14/2013 at 11:15 PM Alex wrote:
> >>
> >> >Finally able to get some info....
> >> >
> >> > checked all the cables, seemed good to me...
> >> >
> >> > Lat & Lon... it does not match "perfectly&quo
> >> >
> >> > The Modem has a lat & Lon of 110.10/35.15, my actual is
> >> >116.54/32.
> >> >much as i thought the dish "searched"
> >a
> >> >"ping"
> >> >
> >> > also I have to manually enter the Mag compass heading as my
> >compass
> >> >is off also, but this has not been an issue till i got where i am at
> >now,
> >> >So Cal, San Diego area.
> >> >
> >> > I am on 91W, have a F1/D2/HN7000S.
> >> >
> >> > So what next? how do i manually enter the right lat/lon or is it
> >close
> >> >enough?
> >> >
> >> >Alex
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--- In RVInternetBySatelli
> >> >wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> The only way to test the transmitter is to swap in another known-good
> >> >transmitter.
> >> >>
> >> >> However: The transmitter is rarely bad with your symptoms. Extremely
> >> >common is that the location wasn't passed to the modem from the D2, so
> >it
> >> >can'
> >> >>
> >> >> Next most common is a bad connector on one of the cables.
> >> >>
> >> >> Least common is a bad transmitter.
> >> >>
> >> >> It you go to the advanced pages in the modem, under setup and then
> >> >configuration it will show you what it "thinks" your location is. It
> >will
> >> >be shown as VSAT longitude and latitude, in degrees and minutes. Does
> >that
> >> >match your real location?
> >> >>
> >> >> On 6/4/2013 at 10:11 PM Alex wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >sorry wrong verbiage, i guess think that the "transmitter&q
> >> >might
> >> >> >be bad but dont know how to "test" it...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Little help...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Alex
> >> >> >--- In RVInternetBySatelli
> ><idahojoat@
> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> When i deploy my moto sat, I am getting a message 18 then after a
> >> >time a
> >> >> >message 13 on the receiver side. i get a good signal. for awhile i
> >was
> >> >> >having to raise and lower the unit a couple of times to get online,
> >then
> >> >> >it would get online. also it has be getting online for a short
> >period of
> >> >> >time then back to three lites and message 13....
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have a D2 controller, and am HN7000S Modem....
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I think it might be the receiver but i dont how to test for this...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks for any input in advance.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Alex
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--------
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Don Bradner
> >> >> www.arcatapet.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--------
> >> >
> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Don Bradner
> >> www.arcatapet.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Don Bradner
> www.arcatapet.
>
Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:42 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Don Bradner" donbradner
The transfer of location from the controller, when it works, occurs immediately after you hit search.
On 6/24/2013 at 4:37 PM Alex wrote:
>Well thanks again to all that have helped... I hit "search" a few times
>and go figure, i am online for the first time in months in my "live in"
>RV... I wish i could understand what the problem was.
> I know that the modem did not have the right "location";, but how does
>hitting search fix that? And why when i take the modem to my travel RV
>does it not have and issue and just works...?
>
> Any information would be appreciated... Thanks again for all your help.
>
>Alex
>
>
>
>--- In RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com , "Don Bradner" <donb@...>
>wrote:
>>
>> The controller either works correctly or it doesn't. You can't make it
>work correctly. It is entirely possible that it will work correctly most
>of the time, which is why I suggested just hitting search again. It is
>also possible that it has stopped working correctly completely. In the
>latter case you have two options: switch to your other controller, or
>manually set the position (DSSatTool).
>>
>> On 6/15/2013 at 3:07 PM Alex wrote:
>>
>> >OK i guess i am not quite understanding... How do i get the controller
>to
>> >tell the modem where i am at? when i use the modem in my other RV, the
>one
>> >i use for traveling, it works fine. in fact the last time i used it was
>> >just north of Holbrook AZ on the Navajo reservation over the memorial
>day
>> >weekend. I have two controllers, do i need to start moving a single
>> >controller with the modem now? the way i have been doing this is i have
>> >two complete systems, 2 F1 / 2 D2 controllers and 2 routers, i would
>just
>> >move the modem from one to the other depending on my needs and
>travels...
>> >sounds like i need to change the way i do things... please let me
>know....
>> >
>> >
>> >Alex
>> >
>> >--- In RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com , "Don Bradner" <donb@>
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The way it is *supposed* to work: The D2 uses GPS to determine its
>> >location. The D2 passes that location to the modem.
>> >>
>> >> Frequently, particularly with old controllers, this is not happening.
>> >When it doesn't happen, you can't range, simple as that.
>> >>
>> >> Bill recommended my DSAdmin for this, but it isn't the right program.
>If
>> >you can't get the D2 to pass the location (you can always hit search to
>> >peak up, since it is right when you hit search that the location is
>> >passed) then you need to do the same thing tripod users do. The program
>> >for that is DSSatTool.
>> >>
>> >> On 6/14/2013 at 11:15 PM Alex wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Finally able to get some info....
>> >> >
>> >> > checked all the cables, seemed good to me...
>> >> >
>> >> > Lat & Lon... it does not match "perfectly" here is what i
>have...
>> >> >
>> >> > The Modem has a lat & Lon of 110.10/35.15, my actual is
>> >> >116.54/32.50.... "I" would think that is close enough, but I dont
>know
>> >> >much as i thought the dish "searched"; for the satellite and once it
>got
>> >a
>> >> >"ping"; it zeroed in and like magic your online...
>> >> >
>> >> > also I have to manually enter the Mag compass heading as my
>> >compass
>> >> >is off also, but this has not been an issue till i got where i am at
>> >now,
>> >> >So Cal, San Diego area.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am on 91W, have a F1/D2/HN7000S...
>> >> >
>> >> > So what next? how do i manually enter the right lat/lon or is it
>> >close
>> >> >enough?
>> >> >
>> >> >Alex
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--- In RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com , "Don Bradner" <donb@>
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The only way to test the transmitter is to swap in another
>known-good
>> >> >transmitter.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> However: The transmitter is rarely bad with your symptoms.
>Extremely
>> >> >common is that the location wasn't passed to the modem from the D2,
>so
>> >it
>> >> >can't range and can't transmit.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Next most common is a bad connector on one of the cables.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Least common is a bad transmitter.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It you go to the advanced pages in the modem, under setup and then
>> >> >configuration it will show you what it "thinks" your location is. It
>> >will
>> >> >be shown as VSAT longitude and latitude, in degrees and minutes. Does
>> >that
>> >> >match your real location?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 6/4/2013 at 10:11 PM Alex wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >sorry wrong verbiage, i guess think that the "transmitter"
>assembly
>> >> >might
>> >> >> >be bad but dont know how to "test" it...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Little help...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Alex
>> >> >> >--- In RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com , "idahojoat"
>> ><idahojoat@>
>> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> When i deploy my moto sat, I am getting a message 18 then after
>a
>> >> >time a
>> >> >> >message 13 on the receiver side. i get a good signal. for awhile i
>> >was
>> >> >> >having to raise and lower the unit a couple of times to get
>online,
>> >then
>> >> >> >it would get online. also it has be getting online for a short
>> >period of
>> >> >> >time then back to three lites and message 13....
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I have a D2 controller, and am HN7000S Modem....
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I think it might be the receiver but i dont how to test for
>this...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks for any input in advance.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Alex
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >------------------------------------
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Don Bradner
>> >> >> www.arcatapet.net
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >------------------------------------
>> >> >
>> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Don Bradner
>> >> www.arcatapet.net
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >------------------------------------
>> >
>> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Don Bradner
>> www.arcatapet.net
>>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Don Bradner
www.arcatapet.net
On 6/24/2013 at 4:37 PM Alex wrote:
>Well thanks again to all that have helped... I hit "search" a few times
>and go figure, i am online for the first time in months in my "live in"
>RV... I wish i could understand what the problem was.
> I know that the modem did not have the right "location"
>hitting search fix that? And why when i take the modem to my travel RV
>does it not have and issue and just works...?
>
> Any information would be appreciated.
>
>Alex
>
>
>
>--- In RVInternetBySatelli
>wrote:
>>
>> The controller either works correctly or it doesn't. You can't make it
>work correctly. It is entirely possible that it will work correctly most
>of the time, which is why I suggested just hitting search again. It is
>also possible that it has stopped working correctly completely. In the
>latter case you have two options: switch to your other controller, or
>manually set the position (DSSatTool).
>>
>> On 6/15/2013 at 3:07 PM Alex wrote:
>>
>> >OK i guess i am not quite understanding.
>to
>> >tell the modem where i am at? when i use the modem in my other RV, the
>one
>> >i use for traveling, it works fine. in fact the last time i used it was
>> >just north of Holbrook AZ on the Navajo reservation over the memorial
>day
>> >weekend. I have two controllers, do i need to start moving a single
>> >controller with the modem now? the way i have been doing this is i have
>> >two complete systems, 2 F1 / 2 D2 controllers and 2 routers, i would
>just
>> >move the modem from one to the other depending on my needs and
>travels.
>> >sounds like i need to change the way i do things... please let me
>know....
>> >
>> >
>> >Alex
>> >
>> >--- In RVInternetBySatelli
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The way it is *supposed* to work: The D2 uses GPS to determine its
>> >location. The D2 passes that location to the modem.
>> >>
>> >> Frequently, particularly with old controllers, this is not happening.
>> >When it doesn't happen, you can't range, simple as that.
>> >>
>> >> Bill recommended my DSAdmin for this, but it isn't the right program.
>If
>> >you can't get the D2 to pass the location (you can always hit search to
>> >peak up, since it is right when you hit search that the location is
>> >passed) then you need to do the same thing tripod users do. The program
>> >for that is DSSatTool.
>> >>
>> >> On 6/14/2013 at 11:15 PM Alex wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Finally able to get some info....
>> >> >
>> >> > checked all the cables, seemed good to me...
>> >> >
>> >> > Lat & Lon... it does not match "perfectly&quo
>have...
>> >> >
>> >> > The Modem has a lat & Lon of 110.10/35.15, my actual is
>> >> >116.54/32.
>know
>> >> >much as i thought the dish "searched"
>got
>> >a
>> >> >"ping"
>> >> >
>> >> > also I have to manually enter the Mag compass heading as my
>> >compass
>> >> >is off also, but this has not been an issue till i got where i am at
>> >now,
>> >> >So Cal, San Diego area.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am on 91W, have a F1/D2/HN7000S.
>> >> >
>> >> > So what next? how do i manually enter the right lat/lon or is it
>> >close
>> >> >enough?
>> >> >
>> >> >Alex
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--- In RVInternetBySatelli
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The only way to test the transmitter is to swap in another
>known-good
>> >> >transmitter.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> However: The transmitter is rarely bad with your symptoms.
>Extremely
>> >> >common is that the location wasn't passed to the modem from the D2,
>so
>> >it
>> >> >can'
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Next most common is a bad connector on one of the cables.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Least common is a bad transmitter.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It you go to the advanced pages in the modem, under setup and then
>> >> >configuration it will show you what it "thinks" your location is. It
>> >will
>> >> >be shown as VSAT longitude and latitude, in degrees and minutes. Does
>> >that
>> >> >match your real location?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 6/4/2013 at 10:11 PM Alex wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >sorry wrong verbiage, i guess think that the "transmitter&q
>assembly
>> >> >might
>> >> >> >be bad but dont know how to "test" it...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Little help...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Alex
>> >> >> >--- In RVInternetBySatelli
>> ><idahojoat@
>> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> When i deploy my moto sat, I am getting a message 18 then after
>a
>> >> >time a
>> >> >> >message 13 on the receiver side. i get a good signal. for awhile i
>> >was
>> >> >> >having to raise and lower the unit a couple of times to get
>online,
>> >then
>> >> >> >it would get online. also it has be getting online for a short
>> >period of
>> >> >> >time then back to three lites and message 13....
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I have a D2 controller, and am HN7000S Modem....
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I think it might be the receiver but i dont how to test for
>this...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks for any input in advance.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Alex
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--------
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Don Bradner
>> >> >> www.arcatapet.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--------
>> >> >
>> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Don Bradner
>> >> www.arcatapet.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--------
>> >
>> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Don Bradner
>> www.arcatapet.
>>
>
>
>
>
>--------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Don Bradner
www.arcatapet.
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