Thursday, 10 January 2013

[bs-telecom] Digest Number 1971[7 Attachments]

13 New Messages

Digest #1971
1.1
Job || Multiple IT Roles || Misc by "Jahan Zaib Saleem" zaib616
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Job || Software Engineers || 3rd Window by "Obaid Habib" obaid_habib
5a
Re: Query || PMP or Prince 2 Certification by "Tayyab Zulfiqar" tayyabzulfiqar915
5c
Re: Query || PMP or Prince 2 Certification by "ReHan Azeem" rehan.glaswegian
7b
Re: Query || ANYONE Working in OMAN (Work Visa Procedure) by "Muhammad Usman Faridi" telecom_usman
8
Query || Cisco Exam Centre by "Waqas Khan" wakaz.khan
9a
Re: Sharing || Sending CVs - REALITY by "Umair bin Tariq" umbintariq

Messages

Wed Jan 9, 2013 9:21 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Jahan Zaib Saleem" zaib616

*Job || Electronics / Software Engineer || NIE Islamabad*

Find attached ad for details.

--
Best Regards,,,
Jahan Zaib Saleem
http://telecom-life.blogspot.com/
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Wed Jan 9, 2013 9:28 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Jahan Zaib Saleem" zaib616

*Job || Research Associate || Urban Unit Govt of Punjab (Fresh can apply)*

Check attached ads and below link for details:
http://www.urbanunit.gov.pk/jobs.asp

--
Best Regards,,,
Jahan Zaib Saleem
http://telecom-life.blogspot.com/
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Wed Jan 9, 2013 10:04 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Obaid Habib" obaid_habib

As recieved, Please send CV's directly to Asma Yousaf Jamal <
ajamal@3rdwindow.com> and give my reference. Please do not put me in CC or
send CV's to me

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Asma Yousaf Jamal
Date: Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 3:44 PM
Subject: Software Engineers Required!
To: 2003018@gmail.com

*Software Engineers Required!*

*Common Job Responsibilities:*

> •Ability to understand and analyze project requirements and translate into
> specifications and programming deliverable.
> •Work with software engineers and senior management to enhance existing
> applications and build additional applications as we grow.
> •Enhance configuration tool to have it use able by our customers and
> product partners.
> •Full life cycle application development.
> •Designing, coding and debugging applications in various software
> languages.
> •Software analysis, code analysis, requirements analysis, software review,
> identification of code metrics, system risk analysis, software reliability
> analysis.
> •Object-oriented Design and Analysis (OOA and OOD)
> •Front end graphical user interface design
> •Software testing and quality assurance
> •Support, maintain and document software functionality
> •Integrate software with existing systems
> •Evaluate and identify new technologies for implementation
> •Project Planning and Project Management
> •Maintain standards compliance
> •Implement localization or globalization of software
>
> *Common IT, Software, Platform and Systems Knowledge:*
> PHP, MySQL,XML,JSON,JavaScript,AJAX,HTML,CSS,Bootstrap, GRUNT,
> SASS,Windows/Ubuntu,Apache/Lamp,SVN/GIT
>

*Candidate must have*

- Excellent programming and analytical abilities.
- At least 1 year of development experience.
- Good skills in PHP, MySql, JavaScript (JQuery), XML, JSON, HTML and
CSS
- Hands on experience with any of the widely used PHP based framework
like (Zend, Codeigniter, Symfony).
- Experience in Facebook Application development.
- Knowledge of Joomla, Wordpress, Drupal will be a plus point.

> *Thanks & Regards*
> *Asma Yousaf Jamal
> **Manager Administration
> **3rd Window *

Wed Jan 9, 2013 10:07 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Tayyab Zulfiqar" tayyabzulfiqar915

PMP

________________________________
From: ReHan Azeem rehan.glaswegian@yahoo.co.uk>
To: MB smurtaza81pk@yahoo.combs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || PMP or Prince 2 Certification


 
What about Middle EAST ?

________________________________
From: MB smurtaza81pk@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 7 January 2013, 22:48
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || PMP or Prince 2 Certification


In Australia, Prince2 is in deemand

From: ReHan Azeem rehan.glaswegian@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 3:23 AM
Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || PMP or Prince 2 Certification

 

 Hi All

Anybody working in Dubai or Saudia or Middle East, can confirm which is more in demand in these countries, either PMP or Prince 2 ?

Regards
Rehan Azem

Wed Jan 9, 2013 11:12 pm (PST) . Posted by:

fawad.hasan

MD
------------------

-----Original Message-----
From: Tayyab Zulfiqar tayyabzulfiqar915@yahoo.com>
Sender: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 04:47:06
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.combs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>; MBsmurtaza81pk@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || PMP or Prince 2 Certification

PMP


________________________________
From: ReHan Azeem rehan.glaswegian@yahoo.co.uk>
To: MB smurtaza81pk@yahoo.combs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || PMP or Prince 2 Certification


 
What about Middle EAST ?


________________________________
From: MB smurtaza81pk@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 7 January 2013, 22:48
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || PMP or Prince 2 Certification


In Australia, Prince2 is in deemand


From: ReHan Azeem rehan.glaswegian@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 3:23 AM
Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || PMP or Prince 2 Certification

 


 Hi All

Anybody working in Dubai or Saudia or Middle East, can confirm which is more in demand in these countries, either PMP or Prince 2 ?

Regards
Rehan Azem



Wed Jan 9, 2013 11:12 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"ReHan Azeem" rehan.glaswegian

But I have heard from many people working in DUBAI, saying PMP has no advantage in getting a job or a promotion ? is it right ??

________________________________
From: Tayyab Zulfiqar tayyabzulfiqar915@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>; MB smurtaza81pk@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2013, 17:47
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || PMP or Prince 2 Certification


 
PMP

________________________________
From: ReHan Azeem rehan.glaswegian@yahoo.co.uk>
To: MB smurtaza81pk@yahoo.combs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || PMP or Prince 2 Certification


 
What about Middle EAST ?

________________________________
From: MB smurtaza81pk@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 7 January 2013, 22:48
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || PMP or Prince 2 Certification


In Australia, Prince2 is in deemand

From: ReHan Azeem rehan.glaswegian@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 3:23 AM
Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || PMP or Prince 2 Certification

 

 Hi All

Anybody working in Dubai or Saudia or Middle East, can confirm which is more in demand in these countries, either PMP or Prince 2 ?

Regards
Rehan Azem

Wed Jan 9, 2013 11:48 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"MB" smurtaza81pk

Even in USA, PMP have no advantage in getting job or a promotion.

________________________________
From: ReHan Azeem rehan.glaswegian@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || PMP or Prince 2 Certification

 
But I have heard from many people working in DUBAI, saying PMP has no advantage in getting a job or a promotion ? is it right ??

________________________________
From: Tayyab Zulfiqar tayyabzulfiqar915@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>; MB smurtaza81pk@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2013, 17:47
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || PMP or Prince 2 Certification

 
PMP

________________________________
From: ReHan Azeem rehan.glaswegian@yahoo.co.uk>
To: MB smurtaza81pk@yahoo.combs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || PMP or Prince 2 Certification

 
What about Middle EAST ?

________________________________
From: MB smurtaza81pk@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 7 January 2013, 22:48
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || PMP or Prince 2 Certification

In Australia, Prince2 is in deemand

________________________________
From: ReHan Azeem rehan.glaswegian@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 3:23 AM
Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || PMP or Prince 2 Certification

 

 Hi All

Anybody working in Dubai or Saudia or Middle East, can confirm which is more in demand in these countries, either PMP or Prince 2 ?

Regards
Rehan Azem

Wed Jan 9, 2013 10:09 am (PST) . Posted by:

"shiraz Khan" ahmedshraz

Hi. Medical is compulsory for all FCC states. There r gamca centres (info
available on line) in Pakistan where u get medical done and on fitness you
proceed. Secondly if a company arranges a visa for u. U just need to go to
airport with work visa copy and process will be done at omanairport. Then
is the medical part to get labour card. Hope this info helps ..
On Jan 9, 2013 2:47 PM, "Muhammad Usman Faridi" usmanfaridi@gmail.com>
wrote:

> **
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Is anyone from our group working in Oman? I have some queries about Work
> Visa procedure for Oman. Is medical test compulsory or not and if yes, then
> where we have to do medical test either in Pakistan or Oman? What are steps
> for work visa process?
>
>
> Usman
>
>
>

Wed Jan 9, 2013 11:13 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Muhammad Usman Faridi" telecom_usman

Thank you Shiraz and Raheel. Can you please tell me one thing more. Does
they take medical test in Oman as per GAMCA law or just simple medical
tests and some blood test etc.

Usman

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:55 PM, shiraz Khan shrazkhan@gmail.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi. Medical is compulsory for all FCC states. There r gamca centres (info
> available on line) in Pakistan where u get medical done and on fitness you
> proceed. Secondly if a company arranges a visa for u. U just need to go to
> airport with work visa copy and process will be done at omanairport. Then
> is the medical part to get labour card. Hope this info helps ..
> On Jan 9, 2013 2:47 PM, "Muhammad Usman Faridi" usmanfaridi@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Is anyone from our group working in Oman? I have some queries about Work
>> Visa procedure for Oman. Is medical test compulsory or not and if yes, then
>> where we have to do medical test either in Pakistan or Oman? What are steps
>> for work visa process?
>>
>>
>> Usman
>>
>>
>

--

----
Regards,

Muhammad Usman
Network Support Officer |
Cell: (+92) 321 8856525 |
Email1: usmanfaridi@gmail.com
Email2: usman.faridi@hotmail.com
Email3: telecom_usman@yahoo.com
Web: www.connectel.com.pk

Wed Jan 9, 2013 11:19 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Waqas Khan" wakaz.khan

Dear all,
 
 
Is there any centre re-opened in Islamabad and Lahore for Cisco Exams.
 
Thank you,
Regards,
Waqas Shamsher.

Wed Jan 9, 2013 11:48 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Umair bin Tariq" umbintariq

Dear Shan_Seehar,

I totally agree with you.

There is no harm in asking for CVs on personal email addresses.
If you want to keep the company name and your designation/role
confidential, you can go for that. Every Body has this right.

But what is going on actually is that Fallacious information is being
floated on these groups to exploit Fresh Graduates.
People quote the names of Big Giants in their emails but actually they hire
for their small firms/enterprises.

I'm currently working on one of a Telecom Operator's project in Pakistan.
I have seen that Our Company's subcons haven't paid the salaries to their
staff for last 2-3 months.
They have promised to pay the salary collectively for 3 months after they
get their PO Cleared by their Customer.

But when these Subcons advertise jobs, they write Telenor's/Mobilink&#39;s name
in their Ads.
And Fresh Graduates when see such ad, they rush to get this job, but later
they get to know that they are actually being hired by a small private firm
whose total office or head office is located in a 2-3 bedroom house in some
residential area.

Such Subcons first make those fresh graduates work for their firm for free
with no salary or any monetary remuneration and then after some months they
hire those candidates who have hands on experience now on very low
salaries.

My point is not to stop our youngsters/Fresh Graduates to work with such
SubCons.
I strongly recommend them to work for these Subcons even for free, if they
don't have any job in hand.
This would help them gain some hands on Experience which would later help
them to hunt a good job in a good Company.
When I graduated few years back, I was also convinced to work anywhere even
without any monetary compensation till I don't get any job, just for the
sake of Experience and to make my profile a bit better.

My Point is just to try to make our Society little more cultured where we
observe some ethical Values.
We should not have exploitation in today's Market and especially on these
groups.
We have to prove that we are also a civilized Nation.

Even if you are a Subcon and you need people to work for you, you should
advertise here on these groups.
You can collect CVs also on your personal Email Addresses, as all Firms
especially small Firms don't have their official Email Domain.
But the Job Ad should not have fallacious information in it.

We should write and advertise clearly and Honestly that we are a subcon and
if you work for us even for free, you would get experience on NSN,
Ericsson, Alcatel etc. Equipment at the end of your internship with us.
Beleive me, if we are honest, still we will get lot of CVs of hard working
and Deserving Candidates for our Company or Firm, no matter how small is
our Company/Firm.

My Aim here is not offend Anybody.
I am just emphasizing to make this platform more and more productive and
more fruitful for all our Juniors. If we have to compete in today's world,
then we have to start living Honestly First.

Take Good Care of Yourselves.
Have a Nice Day Ahead.

Best Regards,
Umair bin Tariq.

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Shan Seehar shan_seehar@hotmail.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> Dear All
>
> All previous opinions are respected. The said issue is the result of weak
> HR culture in Pakistan. In many companies hiring goes without following a
> proper HR procedure and HR has no influence on either the selection or
> necessary training of their employees. In fact they are just reduced to
> certain clerical works and nothing much.
>
> Not all advertisements through personal emails are fraud. Those who use
> personal emails should at least give sufficient details about themselves
> and the organization so that we may apply with trust.
>
> Regards
>
> S Seehar
> ------------------------------
> To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
> From: kamranashraf2@yahoo.com
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 00:29:24 -0800
>
> Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Sharing || Sending CVs - REALITY
>
>
>
> Totally agreee with Mr. Umair.
>
> Companies have their own domains and for hiring HR will ask for CVs on the
> email address privided by the company.
> I have even seen people asking for copies of documents not to mention of
> CVs.
> In my experience anyone asking for CVs on a personal email address it
> totally fraud.
>
> Regards,
> Kamran
>
>
>
> *From:* Umair bin Tariq umbintariq@gmail.com>
> *To:* bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Monday, January 7, 2013 11:37 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [bs-telecom] Sharing || Sending CVs - REALITY
> **
>
>
> Dear Kamran Waheed,
>
> Everybody has the right to share his/her experience on this group for the
> sake of interest of our Juniors.
> I have experienced it many times, in which HR of Multinationals have
> instructed Hiring Managers clearly not to collect CVs on their personal
> email addresses. And I also live in this practical world in which I have
> seen many Employees making illegal use of their Company name and exploiting
> the needy people. Many Frauds have also been reported in this regard.
> Secondly it also doesn't look professional to collect CV on childish email
> addresses like "Cool_guy@...." or "NiceLady@....." or address with
> phrases like 007 or James Bond in it.
>
> So I just expressed my concern on this group in reply to email by "
> snaki_nu " in which he asked to consult the official website, I just
> agreed with him and added my opinion. We should respect each others
> opinions. I didn't point out fingers to anybody in particular in my last
> mail.
>
> Dear Moderators,
> Can you please share any Moderation Policy, if we have for this group.
> Is the quality of material posted on this group being monitored by anybody
> or everybody has the right to post anything on this group?
> As I observed that the fresh Graduates or Undergraduates follow this group
> in large number, so as their seniors I feel it is our responsibility to
> make sure about the quality of information which is floated to them.
>
> Best Regards,
> Umair bin Tariq.
>
>
>
> ****
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Kamran Wahid kamran.wahid007@yahoo.com>wrote:
> **
>
> **
>
> Dear Umar Bin Tariq,****You are a single person who's talking about
> official email address or what eva. You should have an idea about that no
> telecom operator/vendor offer internships nowadays. 90% students after
> graduation tend to sit at home and apply for plenty of months to get into
> telecom field, but no one gets in, without reference, without experience of
> equipment. The other thing this Field operation Internship has nothing to
> do with female candidates. We are human beings and wants our pakistani
> youngsters to get into telecom field some how. I hope you do understand
> that well. For further details about the UN-official internship, i should
> be contacted on 03332695517.** ****
>
> *From:* Umair bin Tariq umbintariq@gmail.com>
> *To:* bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 2, 2013 11:51 AM
> *Subject:* [bs-telecom] Sharing || Sending CVs
> **
>
>
> Dear All Group Members,
>
> Always be aware about the Fake job/internship offers and Advertisements.
> Sometimes such emails/advertisements are attempts to gain some monetary
> interest from you and sometimes they are attempts to collect contact
> information especially from Female Candidates.
>
> Always keep in mind that Multinationals or Professional Companies don't
> let their Hiring Managers/ Employees collect CVs on their personal
> Gmail/Yahoo addresses. It is against their HR Policies.
> All correspondences are done through their official Company Email
> Addresses.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Umair bin Tariq.
> ****
> On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 3:22 PM, snaki_nu no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:*
> *
>
> **
>
> for any internship or job opening, go for the official website**
>
> **
> ****
>
> **
> ****
>
>
>
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