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Tue Jan 8, 2013 6:57 am (PST) . Posted by:
"james obidowski" jimobie57
I am west of Yuma about 30 miles exit 143 down hwy 98 2 miles on the left. my phone number is 218-780-6661
--- On Mon, 1/7/13, Jon Twork jontwork@gmail.com > wrote:
From: Jon Twork jontwork@gmail.com >
Subject: Re: [RVInternetBySatellite] Re: For Sale
To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 7, 2013, 7:56 PM
Hi James:
Where are you located in Yuma. I am at the Cocopah.
I might want to come over and take a look.
Regards,
JON TWORK KB8RSA
Full Time RVer (13+ Years) & Dedicated Boondocker
Retired, Unemployed, Homeless, Transients
1996 Foretravel U270-36 w/24' Timberwolf Trailer
I firmly believe that tomorrow holds the possibility for new technologies,
astounding discoveries, and a reprieve from my remaining obligations.
www.WERV2.com (Under Construction)
Find Jon: Via Satellite Tracker http://tinyurl.com/5mtpq
The Second Amendment is in place in case they ignore the others.
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 2:54 PM, james obidowski jimobie57@yahoo.com > wrote:
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> Subject: [RVInternetBySatellite] Re: For Sale
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From: Jon Twork jontwork@gmail.
Subject: Re: [RVInternetBySatell
To: RVInternetBySatelli
Date: Monday, January 7, 2013, 7:56 PM
Hi James:
Where are you located in Yuma. I am at the Cocopah.
I might want to come over and take a look.
Regards,
JON TWORK KB8RSA
Full Time RVer (13+ Years) & Dedicated Boondocker
Retired, Unemployed, Homeless, Transients
1996 Foretravel U270-36 w/24' Timberwolf Trailer
I firmly believe that tomorrow holds the possibility for new technologies,
astounding discoveries, and a reprieve from my remaining obligations.
www.WERV2.com (Under Construction)
Find Jon: Via Satellite Tracker http://tinyurl.
The Second Amendment is in place in case they ignore the others.
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 2:54 PM, james obidowski jimobie57@yahoo.
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Tue Jan 8, 2013 7:01 am (PST) . Posted by:
"james obidowski" jimobie57
sorry I am not on 24-7 it is a 7000 motom and raven dish
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Subject: [RVInternetBySatellite] Re: For Sale
To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 7, 2013, 12:15 PM
Jim
Since you refuse to post model numbers of the modem or OPI we can only assume that you don't have anything worth buying. The fiberglass dish is the only item which has any value since it cannot be deformed, they are available on ebay at about $25.
Eric
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From: ezzinger ezzinger@yahoo.
Subject: [RVInternetBySatell
To: RVInternetBySatelli
Date: Monday, January 7, 2013, 12:15 PM
Jim
Since you refuse to post model numbers of the modem or OPI we can only assume that you don't have anything worth buying. The fiberglass dish is the only item which has any value since it cannot be deformed, they are available on ebay at about $25.
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Tue Jan 8, 2013 7:32 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Skip Knowles" skip_knowles
Jim... clarity on the modem number is needed if you want to sell it. The
reason is if it is a DW7000 it is difficult to impossible use it. Those
modems are blocked from Hughes. They are considered junk.
BUT, if it is an HN7000 then it can be used. In fact the HN7000 is the only
one that can be used in an RV mobile environment.
The HN7000 comes and goes on E-bay for $25+.
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sorry I am not on 24-7 it is a 7000 motom and raven dish
--- On Mon, 1/7/13, ezzinger ezzinger@yahoo.com > wrote:
From: ezzinger ezzinger@yahoo.com >
Subject: [RVInternetBySatellite] Re: For Sale
To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 7, 2013, 12:15 PM
Jim
Since you refuse to post model numbers of the modem or OPI we can only
assume that you don't have anything worth buying. The fiberglass dish is the
only item which has any value since it cannot be deformed, they are
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> Subject: [RVInternetBySatellite] For Sale
> To: "RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
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reason is if it is a DW7000 it is difficult to impossible use it. Those
modems are blocked from Hughes. They are considered junk.
BUT, if it is an HN7000 then it can be used. In fact the HN7000 is the only
one that can be used in an RV mobile environment.
The HN7000 comes and goes on E-bay for $25+.
Skip
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sorry I am not on 24-7 it is a 7000 motom and raven dish
--- On Mon, 1/7/13, ezzinger ezzinger@yahoo.
From: ezzinger ezzinger@yahoo.
Subject: [RVInternetBySatell
To: RVInternetBySatelli
Date: Monday, January 7, 2013, 12:15 PM
Jim
Since you refuse to post model numbers of the modem or OPI we can only
assume that you don't have anything worth buying. The fiberglass dish is the
only item which has any value since it cannot be deformed, they are
available on ebay at about $25.
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Tue Jan 8, 2013 2:50 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"james obidowski" jimobie57
ok it is a DW so it is junk then . thanks jim obie
--- On Tue, 1/8/13, Skip Knowles skip2000dsdp@verizon.net > wrote:
From: Skip Knowles skip2000dsdp@verizon.net >
Subject: Re: [RVInternetBySatellite] Re: For Sale
To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 8, 2013, 9:32 AM
Jim... clarity on the modem number is needed if you want to sell it. The
reason is if it is a DW7000 it is difficult to impossible use it. Those
modems are blocked from Hughes. They are considered junk.
BUT, if it is an HN7000 then it can be used. In fact the HN7000 is the only
one that can be used in an RV mobile environment.
The HN7000 comes and goes on E-bay for $25+.
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sorry I am not on 24-7 it is a 7000 motom and raven dish
--- On Mon, 1/7/13, ezzinger ezzinger@yahoo.com > wrote:
From: ezzinger ezzinger@yahoo.com >
Subject: [RVInternetBySatellite] Re: For Sale
To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 7, 2013, 12:15 PM
Jim
Since you refuse to post model numbers of the modem or OPI we can only
assume that you don't have anything worth buying. The fiberglass dish is the
only item which has any value since it cannot be deformed, they are
available on ebay at about $25.
Eric
--- In RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com , james obidowski wrote:
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> Subject: [RVInternetBySatellite] For Sale
> To: "RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
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--- On Tue, 1/8/13, Skip Knowles skip2000dsdp@
From: Skip Knowles skip2000dsdp@
Subject: Re: [RVInternetBySatell
To: RVInternetBySatelli
Date: Tuesday, January 8, 2013, 9:32 AM
Jim... clarity on the modem number is needed if you want to sell it. The
reason is if it is a DW7000 it is difficult to impossible use it. Those
modems are blocked from Hughes. They are considered junk.
BUT, if it is an HN7000 then it can be used. In fact the HN7000 is the only
one that can be used in an RV mobile environment.
The HN7000 comes and goes on E-bay for $25+.
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sorry I am not on 24-7 it is a 7000 motom and raven dish
--- On Mon, 1/7/13, ezzinger ezzinger@yahoo.
From: ezzinger ezzinger@yahoo.
Subject: [RVInternetBySatell
To: RVInternetBySatelli
Date: Monday, January 7, 2013, 12:15 PM
Jim
Since you refuse to post model numbers of the modem or OPI we can only
assume that you don't have anything worth buying. The fiberglass dish is the
only item which has any value since it cannot be deformed, they are
available on ebay at about $25.
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Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:28 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Skip Knowles" skip_knowles
Yep... I would say so...
The dish may have value...
Craig's list has been a good place for me to buy a dish.
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ok it is a DW so it is junk then . thanks jim obie
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Jim... clarity on the modem number is needed if you want to sell it.
The
reason is if it is a DW7000 it is difficult to impossible use it. Those
modems are blocked from Hughes. They are considered junk.
BUT, if it is an HN7000 then it can be used. In fact the HN7000 is the only
one that can be used in an RV mobile environment.
The HN7000 comes and goes on E-bay for $25+.
Skip
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sorry I am not on 24-7 it is a 7000 motom and raven dish
--- On Mon, 1/7/13, ezzinger ezzinger@yahoo.com > wrote:
From: ezzinger ezzinger@yahoo.com >
Subject: [RVInternetBySatellite] Re: For Sale
To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 7, 2013, 12:15 PM
Jim
Since you refuse to post model numbers of the modem or OPI we can only
assume that you don't have anything worth buying. The fiberglass dish is the
only item which has any value since it cannot be deformed, they are
available on ebay at about $25.
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> Subject: [RVInternetBySatellite] For Sale
> To: "RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
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The dish may have value...
Craig's list has been a good place for me to buy a dish.
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ok it is a DW so it is junk then . thanks jim obie
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Jim... clarity on the modem number is needed if you want to sell it.
The
reason is if it is a DW7000 it is difficult to impossible use it. Those
modems are blocked from Hughes. They are considered junk.
BUT, if it is an HN7000 then it can be used. In fact the HN7000 is the only
one that can be used in an RV mobile environment.
The HN7000 comes and goes on E-bay for $25+.
Skip
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sorry I am not on 24-7 it is a 7000 motom and raven dish
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From: ezzinger ezzinger@yahoo.
Subject: [RVInternetBySatell
To: RVInternetBySatelli
Date: Monday, January 7, 2013, 12:15 PM
Jim
Since you refuse to post model numbers of the modem or OPI we can only
assume that you don't have anything worth buying. The fiberglass dish is the
only item which has any value since it cannot be deformed, they are
available on ebay at about $25.
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Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:00 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Duane L. Schwab" txpigeon
I need a little info and thought I'd check here first. I have the
HN7000S system and 3 dishes. Two have the oval window with a narrow
transmitter on the arm, the 3rd is the rectangular window and wide
transmitter. Does anyone know of a place that could check/repair the
stuff on the arms? I suspect the LNB is bad on a couple of them (one of
each), but wouldn't mind having it all checked out. I hope I could find
a place online, but figured there was no sense reinventing the wheel if
someone knew offhand.
Thanks,
Duane
HN7000S system and 3 dishes. Two have the oval window with a narrow
transmitter on the arm, the 3rd is the rectangular window and wide
transmitter. Does anyone know of a place that could check/repair the
stuff on the arms? I suspect the LNB is bad on a couple of them (one of
each), but wouldn't mind having it all checked out. I hope I could find
a place online, but figured there was no sense reinventing the wheel if
someone knew offhand.
Thanks,
Duane
Tue Jan 8, 2013 12:15 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Skip Knowles" skip_knowles
Duane.. IMHO the best way to check them out is to set them
up yourself assuming of course you know how to do that. You
don't have to have an active account I believe. You can tuner in
receive. On most any bird then check the cross pol and proceed
up to registration if you want. When you get all the lights you should
be good to go without actually connecting to the internet.
Do that on all three dishes.
Bradner's DSat tool makes this all quite easy except actually
moving the dish to peak the signal.
If you found a buddy in the neighborhood that uses Hughes he
might be able to help you.
If something doesn't work make sure you try different power
supply... I had one go bad once which took a while to find.
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> stuff on the arms? I suspect the LNB is bad on a couple of them (one of
> each), but wouldn't mind having it all checked out. I hope I could find
> a place online, but figured there was no sense reinventing the wheel if
> someone knew offhand.
>
> Thanks,
> Duane
up yourself assuming of course you know how to do that. You
don't have to have an active account I believe. You can tuner in
receive. On most any bird then check the cross pol and proceed
up to registration if you want. When you get all the lights you should
be good to go without actually connecting to the internet.
Do that on all three dishes.
Bradner'
moving the dish to peak the signal.
If you found a buddy in the neighborhood that uses Hughes he
might be able to help you.
If something doesn't work make sure you try different power
supply... I had one go bad once which took a while to find.
Skip
========
>I need a little info and thought I'd check here first. I have the
> HN7000S system and 3 dishes. Two have the oval window with a narrow
> transmitter on the arm, the 3rd is the rectangular window and wide
> transmitter. Does anyone know of a place that could check/repair the
> stuff on the arms? I suspect the LNB is bad on a couple of them (one of
> each), but wouldn't mind having it all checked out. I hope I could find
> a place online, but figured there was no sense reinventing the wheel if
> someone knew offhand.
>
> Thanks,
> Duane
Tue Jan 8, 2013 3:34 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"txpigeon" txpigeon
Thanks for the suggestions, Skip. I left out a few details in the original post. I should know better, being a retired maintenance man. More info is always better.
My system shut down a while back. I swapped in one of the entire arms and still got no connectivity. I then tried the one that's on there now. A little tweaking the position and it's been working fine since. I guess I could swap out individual pieces and verify which ones are good/bad, but that will need to wait for nicer weather. I'd still like to find a place that could repair them.
I haven't opened up an LNB yet, but I doubt there's much in there. Probably a few parts that may have critical heat or frequency ratings. The transmitter shouldn't be too complicated either. I've worked in electronics for over 45 years, but haven't had much to do with the high frequency stuff since my USAF radar days.
I'm on my third power supply since 2003, so I now know to check that, under load, first. Don's tools are definitely in my arsenal.
Duane
--- In RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com , "Skip Knowles" wrote:
>
> Duane.. IMHO the best way to check them out is to set them
> up yourself assuming of course you know how to do that. You
> don't have to have an active account I believe. You can tuner in
> receive. On most any bird then check the cross pol and proceed
> up to registration if you want. When you get all the lights you should
> be good to go without actually connecting to the internet.
>
> Do that on all three dishes.
>
> Bradner's DSat tool makes this all quite easy except actually
> moving the dish to peak the signal.
>
> If you found a buddy in the neighborhood that uses Hughes he
> might be able to help you.
>
> If something doesn't work make sure you try different power
> supply... I had one go bad once which took a while to find.
>
> Skip
My system shut down a while back. I swapped in one of the entire arms and still got no connectivity. I then tried the one that's on there now. A little tweaking the position and it's been working fine since. I guess I could swap out individual pieces and verify which ones are good/bad, but that will need to wait for nicer weather. I'd still like to find a place that could repair them.
I haven't opened up an LNB yet, but I doubt there's much in there. Probably a few parts that may have critical heat or frequency ratings. The transmitter shouldn'
I'm on my third power supply since 2003, so I now know to check that, under load, first. Don's tools are definitely in my arsenal.
Duane
--- In RVInternetBySatelli
>
> Duane.. IMHO the best way to check them out is to set them
> up yourself assuming of course you know how to do that. You
> don't have to have an active account I believe. You can tuner in
> receive. On most any bird then check the cross pol and proceed
> up to registration if you want. When you get all the lights you should
> be good to go without actually connecting to the internet.
>
> Do that on all three dishes.
>
> Bradner'
> moving the dish to peak the signal.
>
> If you found a buddy in the neighborhood that uses Hughes he
> might be able to help you.
>
> If something doesn't work make sure you try different power
> supply... I had one go bad once which took a while to find.
>
> Skip
Tue Jan 8, 2013 4:05 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Skip Knowles" skip_knowles
I dud into this years back when I got into Hughes for RVing. I asked a lot
about how these systems worked and could not get what seemed like a valid
answer. It seem unreasonable to me the transceiver simply pushed through the
coax in some manner to the mode. My RF MW awareness from the telecom
background knew this could not be accurate without using wave guide.
The big DUH happened and I found tutorials on Hughes... someplace.
What's in the arm are more than HF. They operate on the satellite side on
the MW bands around 10 GHZ +/-. The transceiver functions as a down
converter frequency band converter. The coax side down to the 2 GHz +/-
band to so coax cable can handle the frequency with less loss and roll off.
I took my old Raven head apart once and there isn't much to it. I functions
like a funnel to an extent and has small wave guide tuned to the sat
frequency that connects to the actual electronics unit on the arm that
converts. Its pretty rock solid IMHO. Used dishes are so inexpensive it
makes no sense to me to try changing them out. They don't go bad very often
based on posts on the forum. Most techs would not be trained enough or have
equipment to repair one... just get another one if swapping points to it
being bad.
Of course this all my opinion.
Skip
======
> Thanks for the suggestions, Skip. I left out a few details in the
> original post. I should know better, being a retired maintenance man.
> More info is always better.
>
> My system shut down a while back. I swapped in one of the entire arms and
> still got no connectivity. I then tried the one that's on there now. A
> little tweaking the position and it's been working fine since. I guess I
> could swap out individual pieces and verify which ones are good/bad, but
> that will need to wait for nicer weather. I'd still like to find a place
> that could repair them.
>
> I haven't opened up an LNB yet, but I doubt there's much in there.
> Probably a few parts that may have critical heat or frequency ratings.
> The transmitter shouldn't be too complicated either. I've worked in
> electronics for over 45 years, but haven't had much to do with the high
> frequency stuff since my USAF radar days.
>
> I'm on my third power supply since 2003, so I now know to check that,
> under load, first. Don's tools are definitely in my arsenal.
>
> Duane
>
>
> --- In RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com , "Skip Knowles" wrote:
>>
>> Duane.. IMHO the best way to check them out is to set them
>> up yourself assuming of course you know how to do that. You
>> don't have to have an active account I believe. You can tuner in
>> receive. On most any bird then check the cross pol and proceed
>> up to registration if you want. When you get all the lights you should
>> be good to go without actually connecting to the internet.
>>
>> Do that on all three dishes.
>>
>> Bradner's DSat tool makes this all quite easy except actually
>> moving the dish to peak the signal.
>>
>> If you found a buddy in the neighborhood that uses Hughes he
>> might be able to help you.
>>
>> If something doesn't work make sure you try different power
>> supply... I had one go bad once which took a while to find.
>>
>> Skip
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
about how these systems worked and could not get what seemed like a valid
answer. It seem unreasonable to me the transceiver simply pushed through the
coax in some manner to the mode. My RF MW awareness from the telecom
background knew this could not be accurate without using wave guide.
The big DUH happened and I found tutorials on Hughes... someplace.
What's in the arm are more than HF. They operate on the satellite side on
the MW bands around 10 GHZ +/-. The transceiver functions as a down
converter frequency band converter. The coax side down to the 2 GHz +/-
band to so coax cable can handle the frequency with less loss and roll off.
I took my old Raven head apart once and there isn't much to it. I functions
like a funnel to an extent and has small wave guide tuned to the sat
frequency that connects to the actual electronics unit on the arm that
converts. Its pretty rock solid IMHO. Used dishes are so inexpensive it
makes no sense to me to try changing them out. They don't go bad very often
based on posts on the forum. Most techs would not be trained enough or have
equipment to repair one... just get another one if swapping points to it
being bad.
Of course this all my opinion.
Skip
======
> Thanks for the suggestions, Skip. I left out a few details in the
> original post. I should know better, being a retired maintenance man.
> More info is always better.
>
> My system shut down a while back. I swapped in one of the entire arms and
> still got no connectivity. I then tried the one that's on there now. A
> little tweaking the position and it's been working fine since. I guess I
> could swap out individual pieces and verify which ones are good/bad, but
> that will need to wait for nicer weather. I'd still like to find a place
> that could repair them.
>
> I haven't opened up an LNB yet, but I doubt there's much in there.
> Probably a few parts that may have critical heat or frequency ratings.
> The transmitter shouldn'
> electronics for over 45 years, but haven't had much to do with the high
> frequency stuff since my USAF radar days.
>
> I'm on my third power supply since 2003, so I now know to check that,
> under load, first. Don's tools are definitely in my arsenal.
>
> Duane
>
>
> --- In RVInternetBySatelli
>>
>> Duane.. IMHO the best way to check them out is to set them
>> up yourself assuming of course you know how to do that. You
>> don't have to have an active account I believe. You can tuner in
>> receive. On most any bird then check the cross pol and proceed
>> up to registration if you want. When you get all the lights you should
>> be good to go without actually connecting to the internet.
>>
>> Do that on all three dishes.
>>
>> Bradner'
>> moving the dish to peak the signal.
>>
>> If you found a buddy in the neighborhood that uses Hughes he
>> might be able to help you.
>>
>> If something doesn't work make sure you try different power
>> supply... I had one go bad once which took a while to find.
>>
>> Skip
>
>
>
>
> ------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Tue Jan 8, 2013 4:48 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"Barb Nolley" bjnolley2
Duane,
Typically, you swap a part out, not fix it. We've been doing satellite since
2002 and that has always been the approach.
If you ever come to Tucson, we have lots of used HughesNet equipment:
dishes, radios, modems, and arms.
Take care,
Barb
http://www.MobileInternetSatellite.com
From: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of txpigeon
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 4:34 PM
To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RVInternetBySatellite] Re: Info please
Thanks for the suggestions, Skip. I left out a few details in the original
post. I should know better, being a retired maintenance man. More info is
always better.
My system shut down a while back. I swapped in one of the entire arms and
still got no connectivity. I then tried the one that's on there now. A
little tweaking the position and it's been working fine since. I guess I
could swap out individual pieces and verify which ones are good/bad, but
that will need to wait for nicer weather. I'd still like to find a place
that could repair them.
I haven't opened up an LNB yet, but I doubt there's much in there. Probably
a few parts that may have critical heat or frequency ratings. The
transmitter shouldn't be too complicated either. I've worked in electronics
for over 45 years, but haven't had much to do with the high frequency stuff
since my USAF radar days.
I'm on my third power supply since 2003, so I now know to check that, under
load, first. Don's tools are definitely in my arsenal.
Duane
--- In RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
, "Skip Knowles" wrote:
>
> Duane.. IMHO the best way to check them out is to set them
> up yourself assuming of course you know how to do that. You
> don't have to have an active account I believe. You can tuner in
> receive. On most any bird then check the cross pol and proceed
> up to registration if you want. When you get all the lights you should
> be good to go without actually connecting to the internet.
>
> Do that on all three dishes.
>
> Bradner's DSat tool makes this all quite easy except actually
> moving the dish to peak the signal.
>
> If you found a buddy in the neighborhood that uses Hughes he
> might be able to help you.
>
> If something doesn't work make sure you try different power
> supply... I had one go bad once which took a while to find.
>
> Skip
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Typically, you swap a part out, not fix it. We've been doing satellite since
2002 and that has always been the approach.
If you ever come to Tucson, we have lots of used HughesNet equipment:
dishes, radios, modems, and arms.
Take care,
Barb
http://www.MobileIn
From: RVInternetBySatelli
[mailto:RVInternetBySatelli
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 4:34 PM
To: RVInternetBySatelli
Subject: [RVInternetBySatell
Thanks for the suggestions, Skip. I left out a few details in the original
post. I should know better, being a retired maintenance man. More info is
always better.
My system shut down a while back. I swapped in one of the entire arms and
still got no connectivity. I then tried the one that's on there now. A
little tweaking the position and it's been working fine since. I guess I
could swap out individual pieces and verify which ones are good/bad, but
that will need to wait for nicer weather. I'd still like to find a place
that could repair them.
I haven't opened up an LNB yet, but I doubt there's much in there. Probably
a few parts that may have critical heat or frequency ratings. The
transmitter shouldn'
for over 45 years, but haven't had much to do with the high frequency stuff
since my USAF radar days.
I'm on my third power supply since 2003, so I now know to check that, under
load, first. Don's tools are definitely in my arsenal.
Duane
--- In RVInternetBySatelli
, "Skip Knowles" wrote:
>
> Duane.. IMHO the best way to check them out is to set them
> up yourself assuming of course you know how to do that. You
> don't have to have an active account I believe. You can tuner in
> receive. On most any bird then check the cross pol and proceed
> up to registration if you want. When you get all the lights you should
> be good to go without actually connecting to the internet.
>
> Do that on all three dishes.
>
> Bradner'
> moving the dish to peak the signal.
>
> If you found a buddy in the neighborhood that uses Hughes he
> might be able to help you.
>
> If something doesn't work make sure you try different power
> supply... I had one go bad once which took a while to find.
>
> Skip
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Wed Jan 9, 2013 5:02 pm (PST) . Posted by:
"txpigeon" txpigeon
Thanks, Barb and Skip. I guess I have nothing to lose by opening them up to see if I can repair them once I determine the culprit. Seems like there should be someone, someplace that could/would do a refurb at a flat rate like is done for other electronic modules. Might be an interesting hobby for my retirement years. Unless the replacement parts are just too cheap.
Duane
--- In RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com , "Barb Nolley" wrote:
>
> Duane,
>
> Typically, you swap a part out, not fix it. We've been doing satellite since
> 2002 and that has always been the approach.
>
> If you ever come to Tucson, we have lots of used HughesNet equipment:
> dishes, radios, modems, and arms.
>
> Take care,
>
> Barb
>
> http://www.MobileInternetSatellite.com
Duane
--- In RVInternetBySatelli
>
> Duane,
>
> Typically, you swap a part out, not fix it. We've been doing satellite since
> 2002 and that has always been the approach.
>
> If you ever come to Tucson, we have lots of used HughesNet equipment:
> dishes, radios, modems, and arms.
>
> Take care,
>
> Barb
>
> http://www.MobileIn
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