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Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:57 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Muhammad Faisal" faisal_joiya_1
No
Regards,
Muhammad Faisal
Cell# 0333-3114448
Email Address: faisal_joiy_1@yahoo.com
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From: Waqas Khan wakaz.khan@yahoo.com >
To: bs Telecom bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 10:42 AM
Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || Cisco Exam Centre
Dear all,
Is there any centre re-opened in Islamabad and Lahore for Cisco Exams.
Thank you,
Regards,
Waqas Shamsher.
Regards,
Muhammad Faisal
Cell# 0333-3114448
Email Address: faisal_joiy_
____________
From: Waqas Khan wakaz.khan@yahoo.
To: bs Telecom bs-telecom@yahoogro
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 10:42 AM
Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || Cisco Exam Centre
Dear all,
Is there any centre re-opened in Islamabad and Lahore for Cisco Exams.
Thank you,
Regards,
Waqas Shamsher.
Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:58 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Mubashir Malik" ahsan4u87
i've heard that lahore center is re opening in feb 2013
Regards,
Mubi
+92-332-5778007
To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
From: wakaz.khan@yahoo.
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 21:42:25 -0800
Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || Cisco Exam Centre
Dear all, Is there any centre re-opened in Islamabad and Lahore for Cisco Exams. Thank you,Regards,
Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:37 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Yasir Yasin" ee_yasir
Aoa
Can you get update from Al-Khwarzmi Institute in UET Lahore ? I think they are conducting test now.
Kind regards
Yasir
________________________________
From: Mubashir Malik cranchu_popet@hotmail.com >
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2013, 17:29
Subject: RE: [bs-telecom] Query || Cisco Exam Centre
i've heard that lahore center is re opening in feb 2013
Regards,
Mubi+92-332-5778007
________________________________
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.comFrom : wakaz.khan@yahoo.comDate : Wed, 9 Jan 2013 21:42:25 -0800Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || Cisco Exam Centre
Dear all,
Is there any centre re-opened in Islamabad and Lahore for Cisco Exams.
Thank you,
Regards,
Waqas Shamsher.
Can you get update from Al-Khwarzmi Institute in UET Lahore ? I think they are conducting test now.
Kind regards
Yasir
____________
From: Mubashir Malik cranchu_popet@
To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2013, 17:29
Subject: RE: [bs-telecom] Query || Cisco Exam Centre
i've heard that lahore center is re opening in feb 2013
Regards,
Mubi+92-332-
____________
To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
Dear all,
Is there any centre re-opened in Islamabad and Lahore for Cisco Exams.
Thank you,
Regards,
Waqas Shamsher.
Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:58 am (PST) . Posted by:
"Khurram Manzoor" zamin_khum
Company is a local Contractor, For Engineer, Vsat experience is a must, It is a field job,person should be multan based, knowledge of satellite communications (Antenna tracking) and networking.
And same for the technician.
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From: ADNAN NAZIR rsun19@yahoo.
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogro
Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2013, 19:54
Subject: [bs-telecom] Re: Job || VSAT Engineer/Technician || Multan Based Punjab
Company name? and requirement?
Engr. Adnan Nazir
Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:59 am (PST) . Posted by:
"zaid salim" mzaidsalim
Asalaam
I am 100% agree with Umer Bin Tariq
As most of fresh graduates are not such lucky enough to get job immediatelyspecially well known companies.
so i request them to join any company of ur field of interest even that is not going to pay a single rupee. but doing work with them u will get hands on experience..
Remember ... and again Remember ... DO learn and work HONESTLY & with DEDICATION. and never do anything wrong for anyone neither ur colleague nor with company [management]..
and make it ur aim that never do wrong with others what u have faced.. respect them...
ALLAH Bless all of us and make us civilized , educated and make us what HE want from us... Aameen
JazakALLAH
Zaid Salim
________________________________
From: Umair bin Tariq
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2013, 11:42
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Sharing || Sending CVs - REALITY
Dear Shan_Seehar,
I totally agree with you.
There is no harm in asking for CVs on personal email addresses.
If you want to keep the company name and your designation/role confidential, you can go for that. Every Body has this right.
But what is going on actually is that Fallacious information is being floated on these groups to exploit Fresh Graduates.
People quote the names of Big Giants in their emails but actually they hire for their small firms/enterprises.
I'm currently working on one of a Telecom Operator's project in Pakistan.
I have seen that Our Company's subcons haven't paid the salaries to their staff for last 2-3 months.
They have promised to pay the salary collectively for 3 months after they get their PO Cleared by their Customer.
But when these Subcons advertise jobs, they write Telenor's/Mobilink's name in their Ads.
And Fresh Graduates when see such ad, they rush to get this job, but later they get to know that they are actually being hired by a small private firm whose total office or head office is located in a 2-3 bedroom house in some residential area.
Such Subcons first make those fresh graduates work for their firm for free with no salary or any monetary remuneration and then after some months they hire those candidates who have hands on experience now on very low salaries.
My point is not to stop our youngsters/Fresh Graduates to work with such SubCons.
I strongly recommend them to work for these Subcons even for free, if they don't have any job in hand.
This would help them gain some hands on Experience which would later help them to hunt a good job in a good Company.
When I graduated few years back, I was also convinced to work anywhere even without any monetary compensation till I don't get any job, just for the sake of Experience and to make my profile a bit better.
My Point is just to try to make our Society little more cultured where we observe some ethical Values.
We should not have exploitation in today's Market and especially on these groups.
We have to prove that we are also a civilized Nation.
Even if you are a Subcon and you need people to work for you, you should advertise here on these groups.
You can collect CVs also on your personal Email Addresses, as all Firms especially small Firms don't have their official Email Domain.
But the Job Ad should not have fallacious information in it.
We should write and advertise clearly and Honestly that we are a subcon and if you work for us even for free, you would get experience on NSN, Ericsson, Alcatel etc. Equipment at the end of your internship with us. Beleive me, if we are honest, still we will get lot of CVs of hard working and Deserving Candidates for our Company or Firm, no matter how small is our Company/Firm.
My Aim here is not offend Anybody.
I am just emphasizing to make this platform more and more productive and more fruitful for all our Juniors. If we have to compete in today's world, then we have to start living Honestly First.
Take Good Care of Yourselves.
Have a Nice Day Ahead.
Best Regards,
Umair bin Tariq.
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Shan Seehar wrote:
>
>
>Dear All
>
>All previous opinions are respected. The said issue is the result of weak HR culture in Pakistan. In many companies hiring goes without following a proper HR procedure and HR has no influence on either the selection or necessary training of their employees. In fact they are just reduced to certain clerical works and nothing much.
>
>Not all advertisements through personal emails are fraud. Those who use personal emails should at least give sufficient details about themselves and the organization so that we may apply with trust.
>
>Regards
>
>S Seehar
>
>
>________________________________
>To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
>From: kamranashraf2@yahoo.com
>Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 00:29:24 -0800
>
>Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Sharing || Sending CVs - REALITY
>
>
>
>
>Totally agreee with Mr. Umair.
>
>Companies have their own domains and for hiring HR will ask for CVs on the email address privided by the company.
>I have even seen people asking for copies of documents not to mention of CVs.
>In my experience anyone asking for CVs on a personal email address it totally fraud.
>
>Regards,
>Kamran
>
>
>
>
>From: Umair bin Tariq
>To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 11:37 AM
>Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Sharing || Sending CVs - REALITY
>
>
>
>Dear Kamran Waheed,
>
>
>Everybody has the right to share his/her experience on this group for the sake of interest of our Juniors.
>I have experienced it many times, in which HR of Multinationals have instructed Hiring Managers clearly not to collect CVs on their personal email addresses. And I also live in this practical world in which I have seen many Employees making illegal use of their Company name and exploiting the needy people. Many Frauds have also been reported in this regard. Secondly it also doesn't look professional to collect CV on childish email addresses like "Cool_guy@...." or "NiceLady@....." or address with phrases like 007 or James Bond in it.
>
>
>So I just expressed my concern on this group in reply to email by "snaki_nu " in which he asked to consult the official website, I just agreed with him and added my opinion. We should respect each others opinions. I didn't point out fingers to anybody in particular in my last mail.
>
>
>Dear Moderators,
>Can you please share any Moderation Policy, if we have for this group.
>Is the quality of material posted on this group being monitored by anybody or everybody has the right to post anything on this group?
>As I observed that the fresh Graduates or Undergraduates follow this group in large number, so as their seniors I feel it is our responsibility to make sure about the quality of information which is floated to them.
>
>
>Best Regards,
>Umair bin Tariq.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Kamran Wahid wrote:
>
>>
>>Dear Umar Bin Tariq,You are a single person who's talking about official email address or what eva. You should have an idea about that no telecom operator/vendor offer internships nowadays. 90% students after graduation tend to sit at home and apply for plenty of months to get into telecom field, but no one gets in, without reference, without experience of equipment. The other thing this Field operation Internship has nothing to do with female candidates. We are human beings and wants our pakistani youngsters to get into telecom field some how. I hope you do understand that well. For further details about the UN-official internship, i should be contacted on 03332695517.
>>
>>
>>From: Umair bin Tariq
>>To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 11:51 AM
>>Subject: [bs-telecom] Sharing || Sending CVs
>>
>>
>>
>>Dear All Group Members,
>>
>>
>>Always be aware about the Fake job/internship offers and Advertisements.
>>Sometimes such emails/advertisements are attempts to gain some monetary interest from you and sometimes they are attempts to collect contact information especially from Female Candidates.
>>
>>
>>Always keep in mind that Multinationals or Professional Companies don't let their Hiring Managers/ Employees collect CVs on their personal Gmail/Yahoo addresses. It is against their HR Policies.
>>All correspondences are done through their official Company Email Addresses.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>Umair bin Tariq.
>>On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 3:22 PM, snaki_nu no_reply@yahoogroups.com > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>for any internship or job opening, go for the official website
>>>
>
I am 100% agree with Umer Bin Tariq
As most of fresh graduates are not such lucky enough to get job immediately
so i request them to join any company of ur field of interest even that is not going to pay a single rupee. but doing work with them u will get hands on experience..
Remember ... and again Remember ... DO learn and work HONESTLY & with DEDICATION. and never do anything wrong for anyone neither ur colleague nor with company [management]
and make it ur aim that never do wrong with others what u have faced.. respect them...
ALLAH Bless all of us and make us civilized , educated and make us what HE want from us... Aameen
JazakALLAH
Zaid Salim
____________
From: Umair bin Tariq
To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2013, 11:42
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Sharing || Sending CVs - REALITY
Dear Shan_Seehar,
I totally agree with you.
There is no harm in asking for CVs on personal email addresses.
If you want to keep the company name and your designation/
But what is going on actually is that Fallacious information is being floated on these groups to exploit Fresh Graduates.
People quote the names of Big Giants in their emails but actually they hire for their small firms/enterprises.
I'm currently working on one of a Telecom Operator'
I have seen that Our Company'
They have promised to pay the salary collectively for 3 months after they get their PO Cleared by their Customer.
But when these Subcons advertise jobs, they write Telenor'
And Fresh Graduates when see such ad, they rush to get this job, but later they get to know that they are actually being hired by a small private firm whose total office or head office is located in a 2-3 bedroom house in some residential area.
Such Subcons first make those fresh graduates work for their firm for free with no salary or any monetary remuneration and then after some months they hire those candidates who have hands on experience now on very low salaries.
My point is not to stop our youngsters/Fresh Graduates to work with such SubCons.
I strongly recommend them to work for these Subcons even for free, if they don't have any job in hand.
This would help them gain some hands on Experience which would later help them to hunt a good job in a good Company.
When I graduated few years back, I was also convinced to work anywhere even without any monetary compensation till I don't get any job, just for the sake of Experience and to make my profile a bit better.
My Point is just to try to make our Society little more cultured where we observe some ethical Values.
We should not have exploitation in today's Market and especially on these groups.
We have to prove that we are also a civilized Nation.
Even if you are a Subcon and you need people to work for you, you should advertise here on these groups.
You can collect CVs also on your personal Email Addresses, as all Firms especially small Firms don't have their official Email Domain.
But the Job Ad should not have fallacious information in it.
We should write and advertise clearly and Honestly that we are a subcon and if you work for us even for free, you would get experience on NSN, Ericsson, Alcatel etc. Equipment at the end of your internship with us. Beleive me, if we are honest, still we will get lot of CVs of hard working and Deserving Candidates for our Company or Firm, no matter how small is our Company/Firm.
My Aim here is not offend Anybody.
I am just emphasizing to make this platform more and more productive and more fruitful for all our Juniors. If we have to compete in today's world, then we have to start living Honestly First.
Take Good Care of Yourselves.
Have a Nice Day Ahead.
Best Regards,
Umair bin Tariq.
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Shan Seehar wrote:
>
>
>Dear All
>
>All previous opinions are respected. The said issue is the result of weak HR culture in Pakistan. In many companies hiring goes without following a proper HR procedure and HR has no influence on either the selection or necessary training of their employees. In fact they are just reduced to certain clerical works and nothing much.
>
>Not all advertisements through personal emails are fraud. Those who use personal emails should at least give sufficient details about themselves and the organization so that we may apply with trust.
>
>Regards
>
>S Seehar
>
>
>________
>To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
>From: kamranashraf2@
>Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 00:29:24 -0800
>
>Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Sharing || Sending CVs - REALITY
>
>
>
>
>Totally agreee with Mr. Umair.
>
>Companies have their own domains and for hiring HR will ask for CVs on the email address privided by the company.
>I have even seen people asking for copies of documents not to mention of CVs.
>In my experience anyone asking for CVs on a personal email address it totally fraud.
>
>Regards,
>Kamran
>
>
>
>
>From: Umair bin Tariq
>To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
>Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 11:37 AM
>Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Sharing || Sending CVs - REALITY
>
>
>
>Dear Kamran Waheed,
>
>
>Everybody has the right to share his/her experience on this group for the sake of interest of our Juniors.
>I have experienced it many times, in which HR of Multinationals have instructed Hiring Managers clearly not to collect CVs on their personal email addresses. And I also live in this practical world in which I have seen many Employees making illegal use of their Company name and exploiting the needy people. Many Frauds have also been reported in this regard. Secondly it also doesn't look professional to collect CV on childish email addresses like "Cool_guy@
>
>
>So I just expressed my concern on this group in reply to email by "snaki_
>
>
>Dear Moderators,
>Can you please share any Moderation Policy, if we have for this group.
>Is the quality of material posted on this group being monitored by anybody or everybody has the right to post anything on this group?
>As I observed that the fresh Graduates or Undergraduates follow this group in large number, so as their seniors I feel it is our responsibility to make sure about the quality of information which is floated to them.
>
>
>Best Regards,
>Umair bin Tariq.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Kamran Wahid wrote:
>
>>
>>Dear Umar Bin Tariq,You are a single person who's talking about official email address or what eva. You should have an idea about that no telecom operator/vendor offer internships nowadays. 90% students after graduation tend to sit at home and apply for plenty of months to get into telecom field, but no one gets in, without reference, without experience of equipment. The other thing this Field operation Internship has nothing to do with female candidates. We are human beings and wants our pakistani youngsters to get into telecom field some how. I hope you do understand that well. For further details about the UN-official internship, i should be contacted on 03332695517.
>>
>>
>>From: Umair bin Tariq
>>To: bs-telecom@yahoogro
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 11:51 AM
>>Subject: [bs-telecom] Sharing || Sending CVs
>>
>>
>>
>>Dear All Group Members,
>>
>>
>>Always be aware about the Fake job/internship offers and Advertisements.
>>Sometimes such emails/advertisemen
>>
>>
>>Always keep in mind that Multinationals or Professional Companies don't let their Hiring Managers/ Employees collect CVs on their personal Gmail/Yahoo addresses. It is against their HR Policies.
>>All correspondences are done through their official Company Email Addresses.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>Umair bin Tariq.
>>On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 3:22 PM, snaki_nu no_reply@yahoogroup
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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