Well! Ashiq Anjum, it is a possible. just change the "gentleman" to a "Dr." and you will understand everything. If a doctor is supervising 5 M.Phil students and 5 PhD students. They all are working parallel. The paper of the student includes the name of his supervisor whenever he is working under his supervision. Then . I know a person at QAU Islamabad who has 100 papers in a year. and its ethical.
From: Mahmood Nagrial <M.NAGRIAL@UWS.EDU.AU>
To: "pakgrid@yahoogroups.com" <pakgrid@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 6:05 PM
Subject: RE: [pakgrid] Re: Productive Scientists
The best method to count the number of papers as weighted average (divided by number of authors eg. 4 authors in a paper should count as 0.25).
82 papers/year is not possible unless the whole section/division researchers are putting their boss name on all papers either with his knowledge or without asking him.
If that is the case, it is rather unethical.
Mahmood
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From: pakgrid@yahoogroups.com [pakgrid@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of Zamir Awan [awanzamir@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 8:22 PM
To: pakgrid@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pakgrid] Re: Productive Scientists
Valid Point !
--- On Tue, 5/21/13, Dr Ashiq Anjum <ashiq.anjum@cern.ch> wrote:
From: Dr Ashiq Anjum <ashiq.anjum@cern.ch>
Subject: [pakgrid] Re: Productive Scientists
To: pakgrid@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 21, 2013, 9:54 PM
One gentleman produced 82 papers in 2011. This averages up to two papers in one week or roughly one paper in 3 days.
This includes the time to research a topic, do experimentation, get results, write up the findings, proof reading, quality assurance, discuss the results with colleagues, formatting...
How is this possible to do all these things in 3 days and then repeat the whole process 82 times in one year?
I believe quality has been ignored altogether while producing the list.
Best regards
Ashiq Anjum
--- In pakgrid@yahoogroups.com</mc/compose?to=pakgrid%40yahoogroups.com>, "Dr. Arshad Ali" <arshad.ali@...> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> Kindly find the web-link for List of Eligible Applicant for Research
> Productivity Allowance (RPA) for 2012.
>
> *
> http://www.pcst.org.pk/docs/LIST%20OF%20ELIGIBLE%20APPLICANTS%20FOR%20RPA%202012%20final.pdf
> *
> *
> *
> This can be accessed from PCST website: www.pcst.gov.pk
>
> It is interesting to see that none of the engineer falls in the research
> productivity list. Does that mean engineers are not contributing to the
> society or there is something wrong in the way we look at our research
> output.
>
> Best regards
>
> --
> Dr Arshad Ali, Prof & Principal
> NUST School of EE&CS
> Islamabad, Pakistan
>
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From: Mahmood Nagrial <M.NAGRIAL@UWS.EDU.AU>
To: "pakgrid@yahoogroups.com" <pakgrid@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 6:05 PM
Subject: RE: [pakgrid] Re: Productive Scientists
The best method to count the number of papers as weighted average (divided by number of authors eg. 4 authors in a paper should count as 0.25).
82 papers/year is not possible unless the whole section/division researchers are putting their boss name on all papers either with his knowledge or without asking him.
If that is the case, it is rather unethical.
Mahmood
________________________________________
From: pakgrid@yahoogroups.com [pakgrid@yahoogroups.com] on behalf of Zamir Awan [awanzamir@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 8:22 PM
To: pakgrid@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pakgrid] Re: Productive Scientists
Valid Point !
--- On Tue, 5/21/13, Dr Ashiq Anjum <ashiq.anjum@cern.ch> wrote:
From: Dr Ashiq Anjum <ashiq.anjum@cern.ch>
Subject: [pakgrid] Re: Productive Scientists
To: pakgrid@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 21, 2013, 9:54 PM
One gentleman produced 82 papers in 2011. This averages up to two papers in one week or roughly one paper in 3 days.
This includes the time to research a topic, do experimentation, get results, write up the findings, proof reading, quality assurance, discuss the results with colleagues, formatting...
How is this possible to do all these things in 3 days and then repeat the whole process 82 times in one year?
I believe quality has been ignored altogether while producing the list.
Best regards
Ashiq Anjum
--- In pakgrid@yahoogroups.com</mc/compose?to=pakgrid%40yahoogroups.com>, "Dr. Arshad Ali" <arshad.ali@...> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> Kindly find the web-link for List of Eligible Applicant for Research
> Productivity Allowance (RPA) for 2012.
>
> *
> http://www.pcst.org.pk/docs/LIST%20OF%20ELIGIBLE%20APPLICANTS%20FOR%20RPA%202012%20final.pdf
> *
> *
> *
> This can be accessed from PCST website: www.pcst.gov.pk
>
> It is interesting to see that none of the engineer falls in the research
> productivity list. Does that mean engineers are not contributing to the
> society or there is something wrong in the way we look at our research
> output.
>
> Best regards
>
> --
> Dr Arshad Ali, Prof & Principal
> NUST School of EE&CS
> Islamabad, Pakistan
>
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