Abu Bakar and Dear all (Who are in favor of URL filtering),
What ever i do inside my house is my privacy there is no jurisprudence (even not Islamic) which apply in house. I can quote number of rulings. (Be remember we are talking about what i am doing not about if i kill some one "crime against some one")
Of course there is a thought which want us to get Angels on every cost and do not allow us free will. I don't think God had made us to be angel other wise he had enough before this world.
I think brother you are mixing two different things in your argument, crime against some one over the internet or on the street is some thing different than surfing at home on my computer. Today as well there are enough laws exist even in Pakistan to catch people who are steeling credit cards or doing any harm over the internet. We need to make a difference between Lawful Intercept and a generalize platform to make us all Angels.
du takay
Najam
--- In pakgrid@yahoogroups.com, abu bakar <abbubakers@...> wrote:
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> Dear All (Who oppose URL filtering),
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> Is there any movement in any part of the world which is not checked, filtered, monitored, regulated or controlled? Whether it is the movement of people across the borders; movement of words in the form of publishing of books, journals, magazines; your speeches, your actions your relations …. Everything is monitored at some stage. Those who are impressed with the West, when you go out of your home and until you come back you are converted into digital images and recorded thousands of times; whether taking a bus or an underground in the morning, having a cup of coffee at the bakery, or shopping a can of pepsi. You are not allowed `free' movement! How many of you living abroad have raised voice against it or called it against your personal freedom or free movement, or violation of `human rights'? Try asking these governments to remove these millions of CCTVs and leave these things to parents. Is there any action in any part of the world which is not subject to some law or regulations? Can you please tell us what is so sacred, holly and divine about the Internet that you don't want it to be monitored, filtered, checked or restricted; and you don't want it to be subjected to any law or regulation?
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> Those who think they can do anything inside their homes: can they please tell us under which religion (or moral system) or government they are allowed to do any wrong or sin or crime even in their own homes?
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> To those who maintain that self-restraint and parental guidance is the complete solution of the problem, I congratulate them on presenting a new theory in the field of crime and punishment (moral crimes, legal crimes, war crimes, cyber crimes …). I hope the world will listen to their novel and ingenious ideas and abolish the systems of policing and jurisprudence, and leave everything to mothers and fathers; and perhaps to grand-mothers and grand-fathers also!
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> (Note: I do not at all agree with Yasir but I love his style! As a side note, he has expressed his displeasure with three societies. I would like to ask him if he can name three societies he thinks are better than these. )
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> Regards,
> Abu Bakar
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