Sunday, 11 March 2012

[RVInternetBySatellite] Digest Number 2740

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1a.

Re: Hughes modems and solar power

Posted by: "Joe Gluvers" jgluvers@yahoo.com   jgluvers

Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:35 am (PST)



Jon,

I use a Magnum MS4024AE Full sine inverter to power my whole house.. It will output 4000 watts continues or 5800W for 5 sec, or 4800W for 5 minutes… we run everything that normal houses have,, washing machine, toaster, microwave, Vacuum Cleaner,, ect… we do have a huge battery bank and a bunch of solar..

Joe

From: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon Twork
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:21 PM
To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RVInternetBySatellite] Hughes modems and solar power

*Interesting, I see that it will surge to 3700 watts for 5 seconds.*
*Thanks for the enlightening info. I am going to study their sine wave
units.*
*Regards,
*JON TWORK KB8RSA
Full Time RVer (10+ Years) & Dedicated Boondocker
Retired, Unemployed, Homeless, Transients
1996 Foretravel U270-36 w/24' Timberwolf Trailer
I firmly believe that tomorrow holds the possibility for new technologies,
astounding discoveries, and a reprieve from my remaining obligations.
www.WERV2.com (Under Construction)
Find Jon: Via Satellite Tracker http://tinyurl.com/5mtpq
The Second Amendment is in place in case they ignore the others.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Seann Fox <seann45@gmail.com <mailto:seann45%40gmail.com> > wrote:

> Magnum energy ME series...(whole house inverter)
>
> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Jon Twork <jontwork@gmail.com <mailto:jontwork%40gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > *What brand of inverter are you using? I am not familiar with any
> > inverters that surge from 2000 to 4000 watts. Please provide the Brand
> and
> > Model number so we can research it.*
> > *Regards,
> > *JON TWORK KB8RSA
> > Full Time RVer (10+ Years) & Dedicated Boondocker
> > Retired, Unemployed, Homeless, Transients
> > 1996 Foretravel U270-36 w/24' Timberwolf Trailer
> > I firmly believe that tomorrow holds the possibility for new
> technologies,
> > astounding discoveries, and a reprieve from my remaining obligations.
> > www.WERV2.com (Under Construction)
> > Find Jon: Via Satellite Tracker http://tinyurl.com/5mtpq
> > The Second Amendment is in place in case they ignore the others.
> >
>
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Re: Hughes modems and solar power

Posted by: "Joe Keenan" joe@flyingdiver.com   jpkeenanjr

Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:40 am (PST)



You're running a 24V battery bank? How do you get 12V for your systems from that? Center tap or an actual voltage regulator/divider?

joe

On Mar 10, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Joe Gluvers wrote:

> Jon,
>
> I use a Magnum MS4024AE Full sine inverter to power my whole house.. It will output 4000 watts continues or 5800W for 5 sec, or 4800W for 5 minutes� we run everything that normal houses have,, washing machine, toaster, microwave, Vacuum Cleaner,, ect� we do have a huge battery bank and a bunch of solar..
>
> Joe
>
>

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Re: Hughes modems and solar power

Posted by: "Don Bradner" donb@arcatapet.com   donbradner

Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:49 am (PST)



It is possible that the operative word is "house" which may not have any DC need at any voltage.

On 3/10/2012 at 10:40 AM Joe Keenan wrote:

>You're running a 24V battery bank? How do you get 12V for your systems
>from that? Center tap or an actual voltage regulator/divider?
>
>
>joe
>
>On Mar 10, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Joe Gluvers wrote:
>
>> Jon,
>>
>> I use a Magnum MS4024AE Full sine inverter to power my whole house.. It
>will output 4000 watts continues or 5800W for 5 sec, or 4800W for 5
>minutes� we run everything that normal houses have,, washing machine,
>toaster, microwave, Vacuum Cleaner,, ect� we do have a huge battery bank
>and a bunch of solar..
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Re: Hughes modems and solar power

Posted by: "Seann Fox" seann45@gmail.com   fox19899

Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:55 am (PST)



Don "house" refers to the RV... and the inverter supplying power to the
whole rig rather than just a few outlets...
Seann

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Don Bradner <donb@arcatapet.com> wrote:

> It is possible that the operative word is "house" which may not have any
> DC need at any voltage.
>
> On 3/10/2012 at 10:40 AM Joe Keenan wrote:
>
> >You're running a 24V battery bank? How do you get 12V for your systems
> >from that? Center tap or an actual voltage regulator/divider?
> >
> >
> >joe
> >
> >On Mar 10, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Joe Gluvers wrote:
> >
> >> Jon,
> >>
> >> I use a Magnum MS4024AE Full sine inverter to power my whole house.. It
> >will output 4000 watts continues or 5800W for 5 sec, or 4800W for 5
> >minutes� we run everything that normal houses have,, washing machine,
> >toaster, microwave, Vacuum Cleaner,, ect� we do have a huge battery bank
> >and a bunch of solar..
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Don Bradner
> www.arcatapet.net
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Re: Hughes modems and solar power

Posted by: "Joe Keenan" joe@flyingdiver.com   jpkeenanjr

Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:56 am (PST)



Oh, right. Home solar install, not RV. Yeah, that makes a lot more sense. You can gang two of those units for true 240v from the inverters too, which you can't do with the 12v units.

joe

On Mar 10, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Don Bradner wrote:

> It is possible that the operative word is "house" which may not have any DC need at any voltage.
>
> On 3/10/2012 at 10:40 AM Joe Keenan wrote:
>
>> You're running a 24V battery bank? How do you get 12V for your systems
>> from that? Center tap or an actual voltage regulator/divider?
>>
>>
>> joe
>>
>> On Mar 10, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Joe Gluvers wrote:
>>
>>> Jon,
>>>
>>> I use a Magnum MS4024AE Full sine inverter to power my whole house.. It
>> will output 4000 watts continues or 5800W for 5 sec, or 4800W for 5
>> minutes∑ we run everything that normal houses have,, washing machine,
>> toaster, microwave, Vacuum Cleaner,, ect∑ we do have a huge battery bank
>> and a bunch of solar..

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Re: Hughes modems and solar power

Posted by: "Joe Gluvers" jgluvers@yahoo.com   jgluvers

Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:55 am (PST)



Joe,
This is getting away from the "internet Foe RV subject" but As someone else
pointed out IT is a HOUSE not an RV and so 12V applications are very rare..
I have used a center tap, and also a small transformer to create 12v dc..
(vhf radio) .. This setup could be used in a RV but a 12V inverter would be
a lot easier.. I think that Magnum also has !2V inverters with similar
specs. Oh, by the way I did not have to "stack" to get 240Volts It comes
with that already built in.. Another reason I chose Magnum for the house..
Like I said this is a little Off subject so I will back out and just lurk...
Joe, in sunny Baja

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From: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Keenan
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 9:41 AM
To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [RVInternetBySatellite] Hughes modems and solar power

You're running a 24V battery bank? How do you get 12V for your systems from
that? Center tap or an actual voltage regulator/divider?

joe

On Mar 10, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Joe Gluvers wrote:

> Jon,
>
> I use a Magnum MS4024AE Full sine inverter to power my whole house.. It
will output 4000 watts continues or 5800W for 5 sec, or 4800W for 5 minutes.
we run everything that normal houses have,, washing machine, toaster,
microwave, Vacuum Cleaner,, ect. we do have a huge battery bank and a bunch
of solar..
>
> Joe
>
>

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Re: Hughes modems and solar power

Posted by: "Joe Keenan" joe@flyingdiver.com   jpkeenanjr

Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:15 pm (PST)



Yeah, once Don pointed it out it was pretty obvious. I just mentioned it because I looked into that model inverter at one time, and you can't get 240v unless you're using the 24v models. Not available from 12v units, stacked or otherwise. I have the MS2812 in our RV.

joe

On Mar 10, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Joe Gluvers wrote:

> Joe,
> This is getting away from the "internet Foe RV subject" but As someone else
> pointed out IT is a HOUSE not an RV and so 12V applications are very rare..
> I have used a center tap, and also a small transformer to create 12v dc..
> (vhf radio) .. This setup could be used in a RV but a 12V inverter would be
> a lot easier.. I think that Magnum also has !2V inverters with similar
> specs. Oh, by the way I did not have to "stack" to get 240Volts It comes
> with that already built in.. Another reason I chose Magnum for the house..
> Like I said this is a little Off subject so I will back out and just lurk...
> Joe, in sunny Baja
>

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1h.

Re: Hughes modems and solar power

Posted by: "Roger" beadknot@yahoo.com   beadknot

Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:23 pm (PST)



I am running a 24 volt system, use a Vanner equalizer to reduce 24 to 12 for
the few things we still have that are 12 volt.

Roger
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Seann Fox" <seann45@gmail.com>
To: <RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: [RVInternetBySatellite] Hughes modems and solar power

Don "house" refers to the RV... and the inverter supplying power to the
whole rig rather than just a few outlets...
Seann

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Don Bradner <donb@arcatapet.com> wrote:

> It is possible that the operative word is "house" which may not have any
> DC need at any voltage.
>
> On 3/10/2012 at 10:40 AM Joe Keenan wrote:
>
> >You're running a 24V battery bank? How do you get 12V for your systems
> >from that? Center tap or an actual voltage regulator/divider?
> >
> >
> >joe
> >
> >On Mar 10, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Joe Gluvers wrote:
> >
> >> Jon,
> >>
> >> I use a Magnum MS4024AE Full sine inverter to power my whole house.. It
> >will output 4000 watts continues or 5800W for 5 sec, or 4800W for 5
> >minutes� we run everything that normal houses have,, washing machine,
> >toaster, microwave, Vacuum Cleaner,, ect� we do have a huge battery bank
> >and a bunch of solar..
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> Don Bradner
> www.arcatapet.net
>
>
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>
>
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Re: Data Bank

Posted by: "Don Bradner" donb@arcatapet.com   donbradner

Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:38 am (PST)



Sorry, doesn't exist. The data bank rollover, if it is ever given to us with the 7000 modem, will be automatic and you won't be able to stop it, or start it. Right now you don't have it, and can't get it.

From the Hughes Forums:

We will be rolling out the download bank feature to all of our customers as soon as we are confident that our network is properly sized to provide ample capacity for all 650,000 customers to take advantage of this feature. At this moment, we are monitoring the current usage of this feature and designing the network configuration for the full scale rollout. Stay tuned, we'll be back in the community once we have another update. Know that we do recognize the urgency here

UPDATE 3/1/12- - As promised, the final phase of this feature is in engineering test right now. We'll be releasing this feature to the rest of our customers once performamce testing has been completed. Thank you for your patience as we work to improve your HughesNet experience.

On 3/10/2012 at 11:58 AM johnbi wrote:

>I have not yet been able to find the steps necessary to load up the
>Hughes 2X Data bank. It would be nice to run a batch or script file just
>before the free period and give all unused thoughput to the following day
>but at present I haven't even been able to do it manually. Could someone
>point me in the right direction.

Don Bradner
www.arcatapet.net

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