it is not about the product, it is about the initiative; it is not about the profitability it is about the mind set. You think that silicon valley would have flourished if more than 90% projects (that failed due to one reason or another) were not attempted.
Excellence does not ship out-of-the-box;
aj
p.s.
And yes, we could always find a better use of that money (theoretically speaking), but then do we as a society have the courage to challenge the status-quo and ensure that money is not spent on lavish life styles of politicians, civil servants as well.
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Asif Mufti <anmufti@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello Asif Jan,I am surprised by your argument. We should go in where we have good chance to win and spend the limited resources of a borderline bankrupt extremely corrupt third world country with terrorism in every province carefully.If I go along your argument then we shall ever be more mediocre. Startups are created from idea and that is out of the box turned into billion dollar business. American law allows you to setup a corporation in Silicon Valley and if the idea is good venture capitalist will pump money in the process attract super managers and a roadmap to success.So lets think it through carefully and stop being satisfies with mediocrity.RegardsAsif
From: Asif Jan <asif.jan@gmail.com>
To: pakgrid@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [pakgrid] Pakistan Made PAC PAD
Interesting news;Disappointed by the quoted response of so-called experts; any such work originating from Pakistan shall be encouraged; and I find the arguments such as making-money or should-be-doning-something-else simply ridiculous.Lets say today the device is not of an international standard in terms of quality or support, but it does represent a step in that direction- so if you dont like it dont buy it, but do not discourage or disregard the work.ajOn Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Ahmad Iqbal <ahmad.ali.iqbal@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks all for your comments and providing the link to purchase.However, I doubt if we can really purchase it online and get it delivered overseas. This portal http://www.cpmc.pk/place-your-order-2/ does not even provide to specify a country and concentrates more about your job role.I purchased the cheapest one from http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/170762354526?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 a few months ago for my kid but found it fairly poor quality in terms of touch screen and response time. Comparing this with PAC PAD, it has almost similar specification except the processor type (IMAPx210 and ARM11) but price looks around 5 times low. So, its not a bad deal at all.
Regarding warranty and support, considering low priced product, it doesn't really matter as long as it is working when it is delivered.Cheers,Dr. Ahmad Ali IqbalOn Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:36 AM, Asif Mufti <anmufti@yahoo.com> wrote:
I very much doubt they will be able to provide post sales support as is expected from overseas company. My hunch is it will fade into distant memory in 6 months. The bottom line is it takes lot of resources past sales.I hope I am dead wrong.Good Luck
From: ISHTIAQ AHMAD <ishtiaq.ahmad@gmail.com>
To: pakgrid@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Ahmad Iqbal <ahmad.ali.iqbal@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [pakgrid] Pakistan Made PAC PAD
Thanks Ahmad for pointing out such a great piece of information. In my opinion Punjab government should replace laptop with tablet PC to students preferably with home made. Clearly tablets PCs are feature devices and it will be great if our kids are already trained on them.
I'm equally disappointed by Jahan Ara's view (if its true), we give them a lot of public money and we deserve some thing out of it other then weapons but I do agree it should be done under a spin off rather then PAC. if regularity is a problem that's a totally different issue
Regards,
ISHTIAQ AHMAD
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:27 AM, Ahmad Iqbal <ahmad.ali.iqbal@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,Just came across and would like to share this new:�http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/20/pakistan_pacpad1/. Also is there anyone who has any portal from where I can purchase online?Thanks,
--Dr. Ahmad Ali IqbalPh.D. (EE), University of New South Wales (UNSW), AustraliaSecurity Specialist & Developer, ICT Security, North Sydney, AustraliaSecurity Consultant, Mi-Token Inc., USAVisiting Research Fellow, National ICT Australia (NICTA)Phone:�+61 431 716 564,�+61 2 8064 4482
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