Dear Zuhaib,
Nobody is being pessimistic here if he is refuting the water kit idea or terming it ridiculous. It just means that they have firm belief in their knowledge and what they have studied their whole lives. Which is a very good thing. Soon or later this water kit will prove out to be a hoax anyway but it just highlights how weak our basic knowledge and the belief in scientific laws are. A respectable way to let a discovery accepted is to first refute it with your current knowledge, defend laws you have been practicing for centuries and then see if the disovery is still convincing. Now look at our scientists and educated people! If a person is ready to surrender his whole education on a ridiculous claim without even seeing a simple equation of the new discovery, it means that he has never understood what he has studied all his life. And he has never had belief in what he build. He was just in an illusion about things and was hopeful that those illusions were true.
As I said earlier, the waterkit is a sad story not because it was/is/will be a fraud. but it just highlighted how unsure our educated community is about their knowledge and how desperate we are for miracles no matter how ridiculous they may sound in the first place.
Peace!
Rizwan
Hello Ameer,The gentleman should have followed a due process as is in scientific/engineering community. Suppose it does turn out to be a hoax and the politician/media feel being duped .... only the scientific/engineering community will lose and the so called "inventor" would have taken us down the slippery slope a notch single-handedly.AM
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [pakgrid] Re: Break through Pakistani Invention: Car running thru water kit
I don't know why our scientists and scholars are very harsh to this gentleman. I was watching a TV show last night and was astonished to hear the comments of Dr. Atta Ur Rehman, very respectful for me. He used the word frauds and non-sense for the gentleman. But on the other hand Dr, Qadeer responded gently and talked logically.
I think this gentleman is not a professional engineer but if he has invented something, we have to respect his invention and see into it and evaluate it technically, instead of criticizing him.
Regards,
Ameer, Telecom Engineer
--- On Tue, 31/7/12, Asif Mufti <anmufti@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Asif Mufti <anmufti@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pakgrid] Re: Break through Pakistani Invention: Car running thru water kit
To: "pakgrid@yahoogroups.com" <pakgrid@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Tuesday, 31 July, 2012, 10:37 AMProbably a hoax nothing more nothing less. Yeah sure the PM will declare that loadshedding is over tomorrow.In 1990 there was similar claim - Cold Fusion - but the claim was not as extravagant as suggested in the article i.e. full working model. There was intense investigation to duplicate cold fusion experiment and corroborate the results. It was determined after thorough scientific investigation that the University of Utah scientists made an error. During this attempt to verify, of course, every possible variant of the experiment (and that numbered in hundreds) that was conceivable was checked .... therefore I doubt if anything was left out and hence I doubt what is claimed here.There is a due scientific process and it appears the gentleman bypassed and approached the media and politicians. I wish it was true but all evidence (from Cold Fusion experiments and related) suggests otherwise.Asif
From: Khurram Nazir Junejo <junejo@gmail.com>
To: pakgrid@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:59 PM
Subject: [pakgrid] Re: Break through Pakistani Invention: Car running thru water kit
latest developments:http://dawn.com/2012/07/27/demonstration-of-water-fuelled-car-astonishes-experts/
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Khurram Nazir Junejo <junejo@gmail.com> wrote:as-salaam u alaikum,Approved by Science and Technology board. Is this even possible?Coverage by Dunya news
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