Saturday, 4 August 2012

Re: [pakgrid] Re: Break through Pakistani Invention: Car running thru water kit

 

I also saw the show mentioned by Ameer and would say that Dr. Attaur Rahman was harsh on the IDEA not the person. He was right in stating Law of conservation of Energy in this case, as unlike ordinary motor vehicles where battery is used just to ignite the fuel coming from  a reservoire, here the fuel is first produced in Hydrogen generator from electrolysis of water (requiring energy to break bonds in water) and  then this fuel (Hydrogen gas) is burned or ignited in ignition chamber to release same amount of energy by reforming water or steam (same number of bonds formation) that runs the engine. Remember water is not compustible like petrol, it first has to be decomposed into hydrogen which is combustible. So the question from where the extra energy is comming to produce perpetual motion is highly relevent. I think the battery is bearing the brunt of extra energy and must be considered in cost estimations. Moreover, when ignition is swiched off in such water run engines, the residual steam in ignition chamber will condense to form water and what this water and moister will do to the engine parts?   So a lots of questions are needed to be answered but suffice is to say that even a five grader understands this much science but, perhaps not many!
Best regards,
Dr. Ismat Naeem 
Professor Chemistry Lahore College for Women University
www.lcwu.edu.pk
Fax: +092-042-9203077
+092-042-9203087

From: ameer abbas <abbas_ayun@yahoo.com>
To: pakgrid@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 1 August 2012 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [pakgrid] Re: Break through Pakistani Invention: Car running thru water kit
 
I don't know why our scientists and scholars are very harsh to this gentleman. I was watching a TV show last night and was astonished to hear the comments of Dr. Atta Ur Rehman, very respectful for me. He used the word frauds and non-sense for the gentleman. But on the other hand Dr, Qadeer responded gently and talked logically.

I think this gentleman is not a professional engineer but if he has invented something, we have to respect his invention and see into it and evaluate it technically, instead of criticizing him.


Regards,
Ameer, Telecom Engineer

--- On Tue, 31/7/12, Asif Mufti <anmufti@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Asif Mufti <anmufti@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pakgrid] Re: Break through Pakistani Invention: Car running thru water kit
To: "pakgrid@yahoogroups.com" <pakgrid@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Tuesday, 31 July, 2012, 10:37 AM

 
Probably a hoax nothing more nothing less. Yeah sure the PM will declare that loadshedding is over tomorrow.
In 1990 there was similar claim - Cold Fusion - but the claim was not as extravagant as suggested in the article i.e. full working model. There was intense investigation to duplicate cold fusion experiment and corroborate the results. It was determined after thorough scientific investigation that the University of Utah scientists made an error. During this attempt to verify, of course,  every possible variant of the experiment (and that numbered in hundreds) that was conceivable was checked  .... therefore I doubt if anything was left out and hence I doubt what is claimed here. 

There is a due scientific process and it appears the gentleman bypassed and approached the media and politicians. I wish it was true but all evidence (from Cold Fusion experiments and related) suggests otherwise.
Asif  
From: Khurram Nazir Junejo <junejo@gmail.com>
To: pakgrid@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:59 PM
Subject: [pakgrid] Re: Break through Pakistani Invention: Car running thru water kit
 
latest developments:
http://dawn.com/2012/07/27/demonstration-of-water-fuelled-car-astonishes-experts/ 
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Khurram Nazir Junejo <junejo@gmail.com> wrote:
as-salaam u alaikum,
Approved by Science and Technology board. Is this even possible?
http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=166834 
Coverage by Dunya news
http://youtu.be/Z5gAts2N4jI

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