All Answers: [pakgrid] Re: Feasibility Study required for Bio Gas Plant & Solar Power plant (1 MWh)

Hello Ahsan,

So the plant is 3.8 MW, at Rs 180 million per MW of installed capacity. Correct ?

Trust there is no storage capacity and the plant would deliver electricity 7 or 8 hours per day?

Do you also have any data / projections on LCOE (levelized cost of energy).

Thanks,

Asif Kidwai
--- In pakgrid@yahoogroups.com, Ahsan Raza <ahsan_raza@...> wrote:
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> I would like to share my experience the total cost for one mega watt will
> be about 180 million with 25 years of warranty (no maintenance and
> operational cost) and 30 years life . Playback period depends on you
> weather how much you pay per month
> On Jul 16, 2013 10:01 PM, "Adeel Akhtar" <adeelengg@...> wrote:
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> > if anyone need pannels of 220Watts B grade made in china, 85 rupees per
> > watts is the retail price. The panels are of good quality and widely
> > installed in Punjab.
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> > On Sun, 7/14/13, Dr Muhammad Afzal <afzal537@...> wrote:
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> > Subject: Re: [pakgrid] Re: Feasibility Study required for Bio Gas Plant &
> > Solar Power plant (1 MWh)
> > To: pakgrid@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, July 14, 2013, 10:55 AM
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> > Dear All,
> > aoa,
> > In Agriculture sector, as Punjab Govt is also
> > going for Solar pumps, I have seen these are working very
> > successfully. I have seen one at BARI which they installed
> > about 13 years ago and it is still functional. 1-1/2"
> > output keeps filling the tank thru out the day, as we have
> > plenty of sun, and they can use this water through their
> > laid out channels to irrigate their plots.
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> > In an exhibition last October, in Islamabad, I
> > saw there were number of stalls relating to solar products
> > and they included solar water pumps. Although the initial
> > cost is higher, (about 5 Lac Rupees for lifting water from
> > 300' below) but that evens out well even in one year or
> > so for raised fuel costs. I have heard people getting
> > installed these solar pumps at their agri-farms, I have seen
> > it working at Izhaar farms, Talagang as well. I am not sure
> > of complete technical details, probably they are using DC
> > motors to save on DC-AC conversion losses.
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> > Regardsafzal
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> > On 10 July 2013 13:01,
> > Sulaiman <driving_seat@...>
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> > Asalam o Aliekum Umair,
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> > You might want to try Concentrated Solar Power instead of
> > going for PV cells. This technology can be made locally just
> > a bit of commitment is required. I am pasting a paragraph
> > from Wikipedia
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> > Concentrated solar power (also called concentrating solar
> > power, concentrated solar thermal, and CSP) systems use
> > mirrors or lenses to concentrate a large area of sunlight,
> > or solar thermal energy, onto a small area. Electrical power
> > is produced when the concentrated light is converted to
> > heat, which drives a heat engine (usually a steam turbine)
> > connected to an electrical power generator.
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> > Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentrated_solar_power
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> > Date seen: 10-July-2013
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> > I've had done my FYP on this and would like to develop
> > it further. My Project report can be seen on Slide Share:
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> > www.slideshare.net/sulaimandawood/solar-report3ý<http://www.slideshare.net/sulaimandawood/solar-report3%C3%BD>
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> > If you've any questions regard this, please feel free to
> > contact.
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> > Kind Regards
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> > Sulaiman Dawood Barry
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> > Co founder of Askproblems.com
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> > --- In pakgrid@yahoogroups.com,
> > "Ahsan Raza Sattar" <ahsan_raza@> wrote:
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> > > We are going to install on grid solar power plant will
> > synch with wapda and generators the total capacity of the
> > plant is about 3.8 MWatt the unit cost is about more than
> > 200 if some want any help or data most welcome
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> > > with best regards
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> > > AHSAN RAZA
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> > > ASSISTANT PROFESSOR
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> > > DEPARTMENT OF COMPUTER SCIENCE,
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> > > UNIVERSITY OF AGRICULTURE, FAISALABAD
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> > > 0300-6600137,0419200829,0419200161 (3328)
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> > > From: pakgrid@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:pakgrid@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of ISHTIAQ AHMAD
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> > > Sent: 25 June 2013 01:06 PM
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> > > To: pakgrid@yahoogroups.com
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> > > Cc: umair060_tuf@
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> > > Subject: Re: [pakgrid] Feasibility Study required for
> > Bio Gas Plant & Solar Power plant (1 MWh)
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> > > Nice catch Mufti sahib,
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> > > Reason is not technology failure neither it put
> > question mark on viability of solar solution.
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> > > Its fails because of bad business practices
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> > > Here is more insight of the story
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> > http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-02/suntech-unit-bankruptcy-had-roots-in-deadbeat-customers.html
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> > > Regards,
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> > > Ishtiaq Ahmad
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> > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Asif Mufti
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> > > Few months back the Chinese behemoth in solar energy
> > SUNTECH declared bankruptcy. Despite Chinese Government
> > financial backing it failed. I seriously question the wisdom
> > of using Solar Energy as a viable option. SUNTECH is in
> > business again but after Chinese government dumped more
> > money into. The analyst projection is that would need to
> > inject more money soon.
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> > > From: ISHTIAQ AHMAD <ishtiaq.ahmad@>
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> > > To: "pakgrid@yahoogroups.com"
> > <pakgrid@yahoogroups.com>;
> > umair060_tuf@
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> > > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 12:15 PM
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> > > Subject: Re: [pakgrid] Feasibility Study required for
> > Bio Gas Plant & Solar Power plant (1 MWh)
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> > > for retail prices see Amazon, its almost 1 euro per W,
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> > > In Pakistan you can check this site for reference,
> > price will be round about these values
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> > > http://www.solarsystemspk.com/prices/prices.html
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> > > Or if you know what you need, check for bulk prices
> > here, be aware of nasty custom department
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> > > http://www.alibaba.com
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> > > For retail prices see Amazon (
> > http://www.amazon.de/SOLARPANEL-SOLARMODUL-PHOTOVOLTAIK-SOLARZELLE-SOLAR/dp/B0089BVORK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8
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> > http://www.amazon.de/SOLARPANEL-SOLARMODUL-PHOTOVOLTAIK-SOLARZELLE-SOLAR/dp/B0089BVORK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370848271&sr=8-1&keywords=solarpanel
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> > > Regards,
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> > > Ishtiaq Ahmad
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> > > On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Muhammad
> > <umair060_tuf@> wrote:
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> > > AOA... and slaam to everyone.
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> > > As demand of of energy is increasing day by day and
> > also shortage of power in pakistan and loadshedding hours
> > are more in village areas than city. I belong to one village
> > of Rahim Yar Khan. Our village people facing many problems
> > on due to electricity and 2nd best source of water for
> > agriculture purpose.
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> > > I want to give them best alternative of renewable
> > energy source which can run one or two water tubewells and
> > also meet their domestic electricity needs.
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> > > Their only income source is agriculture but our
> > government frustrated them for not giving them access water
> > to feed their crops.
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> > > Kindly suggest me and give your inputs to solve the
> > problem of our poor village peoples.
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> > > I have two options whether to go on solar energy or on
> > Bio gas plant but I think initial cost of solar is very
> > high, so suggest me which option will be feasible ?
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> > > I need complete feasibility study for both options
> > compared with heavy fuel or diesel and WAPDA.
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> > > I know that here all peoples are engineers, professors,
> > professionals and practitioners and consultants also. So
> > purpose of this discussion is to find out the optimum
> > solution. I hope that all will participate and give their
> > valuable inputs .
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> > > Here I put some queries which will help me to evaluate
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> > > I need solution for ( 1 MWH) energy initially ?
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> > > Total initial cost for this project ?
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> > > What will be Payback period for each one option?
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> > > Supplier name if any one know ?
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> > > Your earliest response will be highly appreciated.
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> > > Thanking You
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> > > Regards
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> > > Engr. Muhammad Umair
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> > > MS Engineering scholar , UET Taxila.
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> > > Email : umair060_tuf@
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