Sunday 21 July 2013

[RVInternetBySatellite] Digest Number 2898

5 New Messages

Digest #2898
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Re: Acting up again.... by "V Starkey" bs1917
1b
Re: Acting up again.... by "Don Bradner" donbradner
1c
Re: Acting up again.... by "V Starkey" bs1917
1d
Re: Acting up again.... by "V Starkey" bs1917
1e
Re: Acting up again.... by "Don Bradner" donbradner

Messages

Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:18 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"V Starkey" bs1917

Don, Have you blocked me again? Not able to log on and can not change map.
Thanks,
Von
 


________________________________
From: Don Bradner <donb@arcatapet.com>
To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [RVInternetBySatellite] Re: Acting up again....

 

The transfer of location from the controller, when it works, occurs immediately after you hit search.

On 6/24/2013 at 4:37 PM Alex wrote:

>Well thanks again to all that have helped... I hit "search" a few times
>and go figure, i am online for the first time in months in my "live in"
>RV... I wish i could understand what the problem was.
> I know that the modem did not have the right "location";, but how does
>hitting search fix that? And why when i take the modem to my travel RV
>does it not have and issue and just works...?
>
> Any information would be appreciated... Thanks again for all your help.
>
>Alex
>
>
>
>--- In mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner" <donb@...>
>wrote:
>>
>> The controller either works correctly or it doesn't. You can't make it
>work correctly. It is entirely possible that it will work correctly most
>of the time, which is why I suggested just hitting search again. It is
>also possible that it has stopped working correctly completely. In the
>latter case you have two options: switch to your other controller, or
>manually set the position (DSSatTool).
>>
>> On 6/15/2013 at 3:07 PM Alex wrote:
>>
>> >OK i guess i am not quite understanding... How do i get the controller
>to
>> >tell the modem where i am at? when i use the modem in my other RV, the
>one
>> >i use for traveling, it works fine. in fact the last time i used it was
>> >just north of Holbrook AZ on the Navajo reservation over the memorial
>day
>> >weekend. I have two controllers, do i need to start moving a single
>> >controller with the modem now? the way i have been doing this is i have
>> >two complete systems, 2 F1 / 2 D2 controllers and 2 routers, i would
>just
>> >move the modem from one to the other depending on my needs and
>travels...
>> >sounds like i need to change the way i do things... please let me
>know....
>> >
>> >
>> >Alex
>> >
>> >--- In mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner" <donb@>
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The way it is *supposed* to work: The D2 uses GPS to determine its
>> >location. The D2 passes that location to the modem.
>> >>
>> >> Frequently, particularly with old controllers, this is not happening.
>> >When it doesn't happen, you can't range, simple as that.
>> >>
>> >> Bill recommended my DSAdmin for this, but it isn't the right program.
>If
>> >you can't get the D2 to pass the location (you can always hit search to
>> >peak up, since it is right when you hit search that the location is
>> >passed) then you need to do the same thing tripod users do. The program
>> >for that is DSSatTool.
>> >>
>> >> On 6/14/2013 at 11:15 PM Alex wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Finally able to get some info....
>> >> >
>> >> > checked all the cables, seemed good to me...
>> >> >
>> >> > Lat & Lon... it does not match "perfectly&quot; here is what i
>have...
>> >> >
>> >> > The Modem has a lat & Lon of 110.10/35.15, my actual is
>> >> >116.54/32.50.... "I" would think that is close enough, but I dont
>know
>> >> >much as i thought the dish "searched"; for the satellite and once it
>got
>> >a
>> >> >"ping"; it zeroed in and like magic your online...
>> >> >
>> >> > also I have to manually enter the Mag compass heading as my
>> >compass
>> >> >is off also, but this has not been an issue till i got where i am at
>> >now,
>> >> >So Cal, San Diego area.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am on 91W, have a F1/D2/HN7000S...
>> >> >
>> >> > So what next? how do i manually enter the right lat/lon or is it
>> >close
>> >> >enough?
>> >> >
>> >> >Alex
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--- In mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner" <donb@>
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The only way to test the transmitter is to swap in another
>known-good
>> >> >transmitter.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> However: The transmitter is rarely bad with your symptoms.
>Extremely
>> >> >common is that the location wasn't passed to the modem from the D2,
>so
>> >it
>> >> >can't range and can't transmit.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Next most common is a bad connector on one of the cables.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Least common is a bad transmitter.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It you go to the advanced pages in the modem, under setup and then
>> >> >configuration it will show you what it "thinks" your location is. It
>> >will
>> >> >be shown as VSAT longitude and latitude, in degrees and minutes. Does
>> >that
>> >> >match your real location?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 6/4/2013 at 10:11 PM Alex wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >sorry wrong verbiage, i guess think that the "transmitter&quot;
>assembly
>> >> >might
>> >> >> >be bad but dont know how to "test" it...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Little help...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Alex
>> >> >> >--- In mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com, "idahojoat&quot;
>> ><idahojoat@>
>> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> When i deploy my moto sat, I am getting a message 18 then after
>a
>> >> >time a
>> >> >> >message 13 on the receiver side. i get a good signal. for awhile i
>> >was
>> >> >> >having to raise and lower the unit a couple of times to get
>online,
>> >then
>> >> >> >it would get online. also it has be getting online for a short
>> >period of
>> >> >> >time then back to three lites and message 13....
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I have a D2 controller, and am HN7000S Modem....
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I think it might be the receiver but i dont how to test for
>this...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks for any input in advance.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Alex
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >------------------------------------
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Don Bradner
>> >> >> www.arcatapet.net
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >------------------------------------
>> >> >
>> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Don Bradner
>> >> www.arcatapet.net
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >------------------------------------
>> >
>> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Don Bradner
>> www.arcatapet.net
>>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Don Bradner
www.arcatapet.net

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:34 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Don Bradner" donbradner

I need to know what message(s) you are getting.

On 7/20/2013 at 11:18 AM V Starkey wrote:

>Don, Have you blocked me again? Not able to log on and can not change map.
>Thanks,
>Von

>
>
>________________________________
> From: Don Bradner <donb@arcatapet.com>
>To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 12:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [RVInternetBySatellite] Re: Acting up again....
>

>
>The transfer of location from the controller, when it works, occurs
>immediately after you hit search.
>
>On 6/24/2013 at 4:37 PM Alex wrote:
>
>>Well thanks again to all that have helped... I hit "search" a few times
>>and go figure, i am online for the first time in months in my "live in"
>>RV... I wish i could understand what the problem was.
>> I know that the modem did not have the right "location";, but how does
>>hitting search fix that? And why when i take the modem to my travel RV
>>does it not have and issue and just works...?
>>
>> Any information would be appreciated... Thanks again for all your help.
>>
>>Alex
>>
>>
>>
>>--- In mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
><donb@...>
>>wrote:
>>>
>>> The controller either works correctly or it doesn't. You can't make it
>>work correctly. It is entirely possible that it will work correctly most
>>of the time, which is why I suggested just hitting search again. It is
>>also possible that it has stopped working correctly completely. In the
>>latter case you have two options: switch to your other controller, or
>>manually set the position (DSSatTool).
>>>
>>> On 6/15/2013 at 3:07 PM Alex wrote:
>>>
>>> >OK i guess i am not quite understanding... How do i get the controller
>>to
>>> >tell the modem where i am at? when i use the modem in my other RV, the
>>one
>>> >i use for traveling, it works fine. in fact the last time i used it was
>>> >just north of Holbrook AZ on the Navajo reservation over the memorial
>>day
>>> >weekend. I have two controllers, do i need to start moving a single
>>> >controller with the modem now? the way i have been doing this is i have
>>> >two complete systems, 2 F1 / 2 D2 controllers and 2 routers, i would
>>just
>>> >move the modem from one to the other depending on my needs and
>>travels...
>>> >sounds like i need to change the way i do things... please let me
>>know....
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Alex
>>> >
>>> >--- In mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
><donb@>
>>> >wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> The way it is *supposed* to work: The D2 uses GPS to determine its
>>> >location. The D2 passes that location to the modem.
>>> >>
>>> >> Frequently, particularly with old controllers, this is not happening.
>>> >When it doesn't happen, you can't range, simple as that.
>>> >>
>>> >> Bill recommended my DSAdmin for this, but it isn't the right program.
>>If
>>> >you can't get the D2 to pass the location (you can always hit search to
>>> >peak up, since it is right when you hit search that the location is
>>> >passed) then you need to do the same thing tripod users do. The program
>>> >for that is DSSatTool.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 6/14/2013 at 11:15 PM Alex wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >Finally able to get some info....
>>> >> >
>>> >> > checked all the cables, seemed good to me...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Lat & Lon... it does not match "perfectly&quot; here is what i
>>have...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The Modem has a lat & Lon of 110.10/35.15, my actual is
>>> >> >116.54/32.50.... "I" would think that is close enough, but I dont
>>know
>>> >> >much as i thought the dish "searched"; for the satellite and once it
>>got
>>> >a
>>> >> >"ping"; it zeroed in and like magic your online...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > also I have to manually enter the Mag compass heading as my
>>> >compass
>>> >> >is off also, but this has not been an issue till i got where i am at
>>> >now,
>>> >> >So Cal, San Diego area.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I am on 91W, have a F1/D2/HN7000S...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > So what next? how do i manually enter the right lat/lon or is it
>>> >close
>>> >> >enough?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Alex
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >--- In mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com, "Don
>Bradner" <donb@>
>>> >> >wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> The only way to test the transmitter is to swap in another
>>known-good
>>> >> >transmitter.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> However: The transmitter is rarely bad with your symptoms.
>>Extremely
>>> >> >common is that the location wasn't passed to the modem from the D2,
>>so
>>> >it
>>> >> >can't range and can't transmit.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Next most common is a bad connector on one of the cables.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Least common is a bad transmitter.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> It you go to the advanced pages in the modem, under setup and then
>>> >> >configuration it will show you what it "thinks" your location is. It
>>> >will
>>> >> >be shown as VSAT longitude and latitude, in degrees and minutes.
>Does
>>> >that
>>> >> >match your real location?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On 6/4/2013 at 10:11 PM Alex wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >sorry wrong verbiage, i guess think that the "transmitter&quot;
>>assembly
>>> >> >might
>>> >> >> >be bad but dont know how to "test" it...
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Little help...
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Alex
>>> >> >> >--- In mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com,
>"idahojoat"
>>> ><idahojoat@>
>>> >> >> >wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> When i deploy my moto sat, I am getting a message 18 then after
>>a
>>> >> >time a
>>> >> >> >message 13 on the receiver side. i get a good signal. for awhile
>i
>>> >was
>>> >> >> >having to raise and lower the unit a couple of times to get
>>online,
>>> >then
>>> >> >> >it would get online. also it has be getting online for a short
>>> >period of
>>> >> >> >time then back to three lites and message 13....
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> I have a D2 controller, and am HN7000S Modem....
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> I think it might be the receiver but i dont how to test for
>>this...
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Thanks for any input in advance.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Alex
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >------------------------------------
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Don Bradner
>>> >> >> www.arcatapet.net
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >------------------------------------
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Don Bradner
>>> >> www.arcatapet.net
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >------------------------------------
>>> >
>>> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> Don Bradner
>>> www.arcatapet.net
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------------
>>
>>Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>Don Bradner
>www.arcatapet.net
>
>
>
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Don Bradner
www.arcatapet.net

Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:46 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"V Starkey" bs1917

It just tells me to log in again. Over and over again.
Von
Thanks
 


________________________________
From: Don Bradner <donb@arcatapet.com>
To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [RVInternetBySatellite] Re: Acting up again....


I need to know what message(s) you are getting.

On 7/20/2013 at 11:18 AM V Starkey wrote:

>Don, Have you blocked me again? Not able to log on and can not change map.
>Thanks,
>Von
>�
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Don Bradner <donb@arcatapet.com>
>To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 12:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [RVInternetBySatellite] Re: Acting up again....

>� 
>
>The transfer of location from the controller, when it works, occurs
>immediately after you hit search.
>
>On 6/24/2013 at 4:37 PM Alex wrote:
>
>>Well thanks again to all that have helped... I hit "search" a few times
>>and go figure, i am online for the first time in months in my "live in"
>>RV... I wish i could understand what the problem was.
>>  I know that the modem did not have the right "location";, but how does
>>hitting search fix that? And why when i take the modem to my travel RV
>>does it not have and issue and just works...?
>>
>>  Any information would be appreciated... Thanks again for all your help.
>>
>>Alex
>>
>>
>>
>>--- In mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
><donb@...>
>>wrote:
>>>
>>> The controller either works correctly or it doesn't. You can't make it
>>work correctly. It is entirely possible that it will work correctly most
>>of the time, which is why I suggested just hitting search again. It is
>>also possible that it has stopped working correctly completely. In the
>>latter case you have two options: switch to your other controller, or
>>manually set the position (DSSatTool).
>>>
>>> On 6/15/2013 at 3:07 PM Alex wrote:
>>>
>>> >OK i guess i am not quite understanding... How do i get the controller
>>to
>>> >tell the modem where i am at? when i use the modem in my other RV, the
>>one
>>> >i use for traveling, it works fine. in fact the last time i used it was
>>> >just north of Holbrook AZ on the Navajo reservation over the memorial
>>day
>>> >weekend. I have two controllers, do i need to start moving a single
>>> >controller with the modem now? the way i have been doing this is i have
>>> >two complete systems, 2 F1 / 2 D2 controllers and 2 routers, i would
>>just
>>> >move the modem from one to the other depending on my needs and
>>travels...
>>> >sounds like i need to change the way i do things... please let me
>>know....
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Alex
>>> >
>>> >--- In mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
><donb@>
>>> >wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> The way it is *supposed* to work: The D2 uses GPS to determine its
>>> >location. The D2 passes that location to the modem.
>>> >>
>>> >> Frequently, particularly with old controllers, this is not happening.
>>> >When it doesn't happen, you can't range, simple as that.
>>> >>
>>> >> Bill recommended my DSAdmin for this, but it isn't the right program.
>>If
>>> >you can't get the D2 to pass the location (you can always hit search to
>>> >peak up, since it is right when you hit search that the location is
>>> >passed) then you need to do the same thing tripod users do. The program
>>> >for that is DSSatTool.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 6/14/2013 at 11:15 PM Alex wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >Finally able to get some info....
>>> >> >
>>> >> >  checked all the cables, seemed good to me...
>>> >> >
>>> >> >      Lat & Lon... it does not match "perfectly&quot; here is what i
>>have...
>>> >> >
>>> >> >        The Modem has a lat & Lon of 110.10/35.15, my actual is
>>> >> >116.54/32.50.... "I" would think that is close enough, but I dont
>>know
>>> >> >much as i thought the dish "searched"; for the satellite and once it
>>got
>>> >a
>>> >> >"ping"; it zeroed in and like magic your online...
>>> >> >
>>> >> >      also I have to manually enter the Mag compass heading as my
>>> >compass
>>> >> >is off also, but this has not been an issue till i got where i am at
>>> >now,
>>> >> >So Cal, San Diego area.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I am on 91W, have a F1/D2/HN7000S...
>>> >> >
>>> >> >    So what next? how do i manually enter the right lat/lon or is it
>>> >close
>>> >> >enough?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Alex
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >--- In mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com, "Don
>Bradner" <donb@>
>>> >> >wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> The only way to test the transmitter is to swap in another
>>known-good
>>> >> >transmitter.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> However: The transmitter is rarely bad with your symptoms.
>>Extremely
>>> >> >common is that the location wasn't passed to the modem from the D2,
>>so
>>> >it
>>> >> >can't range and can't transmit.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Next most common is a bad connector on one of the cables.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Least common is a bad transmitter.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> It you go to the advanced pages in the modem, under setup and then
>>> >> >configuration it will show you what it "thinks" your location is. It
>>> >will
>>> >> >be shown as VSAT longitude and latitude, in degrees and minutes.
>Does
>>> >that
>>> >> >match your real location?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On 6/4/2013 at 10:11 PM Alex wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >sorry wrong verbiage, i guess think that the "transmitter&quot;
>>assembly
>>> >> >might
>>> >> >> >be bad but dont know how to "test" it...
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Little help...
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Alex
>>> >> >> >--- In mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com,
>"idahojoat"
>>> ><idahojoat@>
>>> >> >> >wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> When i deploy my moto sat, I am getting a message 18 then after
>>a
>>> >> >time a
>>> >> >> >message 13 on the receiver side. i get a good signal. for awhile
>i
>>> >was
>>> >> >> >having to raise and lower the unit a couple of times to get
>>online,
>>> >then
>>> >> >> >it would get online. also it has be getting online for a short
>>> >period of
>>> >> >> >time then back to three lites and message 13....
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> I have a D2 controller, and am HN7000S Modem....
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> I think it might be the receiver but i dont how to test for
>>this...
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Thanks for any input in advance.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Alex
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >------------------------------------
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Don Bradner
>>> >> >> www.arcatapet.net
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >------------------------------------
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Don Bradner
>>> >> www.arcatapet.net
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >------------------------------------
>>> >
>>> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> Don Bradner
>>> www.arcatapet.net
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------------
>>
>>Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>Don Bradner
>www.arcatapet.net
>

>       
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Don Bradner
www.arcatapet.net

------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:51 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"V Starkey" bs1917

Now page can not be displayed.
Von


________________________________
From: V Starkey <bs1917@yahoo.com>
To: "RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com" <RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [RVInternetBySatellite] Re: Acting up again....


 

It just tells me to log in again. Over and over again.
Von
Thanks
 

________________________________
From: Don Bradner <mailto:donb%40arcatapet.com>
To: mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [RVInternetBySatellite] Re: Acting up again....

I need to know what message(s) you are getting.

On 7/20/2013 at 11:18 AM V Starkey wrote:

>Don, Have you blocked me again? Not able to log on and can not change map.
>Thanks,
>Von
>�
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Don Bradner <mailto:donb%40arcatapet.com>
>To: mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 12:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [RVInternetBySatellite] Re: Acting up again....

>� 
>
>The transfer of location from the controller, when it works, occurs
>immediately after you hit search.
>
>On 6/24/2013 at 4:37 PM Alex wrote:
>
>>Well thanks again to all that have helped... I hit "search" a few times
>>and go figure, i am online for the first time in months in my "live in"
>>RV... I wish i could understand what the problem was.
>>  I know that the modem did not have the right "location";, but how does
>>hitting search fix that? And why when i take the modem to my travel RV
>>does it not have and issue and just works...?
>>
>>  Any information would be appreciated... Thanks again for all your help.
>>
>>Alex
>>
>>
>>
>>--- In mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
><donb@...>
>>wrote:
>>>
>>> The controller either works correctly or it doesn't. You can't make it
>>work correctly. It is entirely possible that it will work correctly most
>>of the time, which is why I suggested just hitting search again. It is
>>also possible that it has stopped working correctly completely. In the
>>latter case you have two options: switch to your other controller, or
>>manually set the position (DSSatTool).
>>>
>>> On 6/15/2013 at 3:07 PM Alex wrote:
>>>
>>> >OK i guess i am not quite understanding... How do i get the controller
>>to
>>> >tell the modem where i am at? when i use the modem in my other RV, the
>>one
>>> >i use for traveling, it works fine. in fact the last time i used it was
>>> >just north of Holbrook AZ on the Navajo reservation over the memorial
>>day
>>> >weekend. I have two controllers, do i need to start moving a single
>>> >controller with the modem now? the way i have been doing this is i have
>>> >two complete systems, 2 F1 / 2 D2 controllers and 2 routers, i would
>>just
>>> >move the modem from one to the other depending on my needs and
>>travels...
>>> >sounds like i need to change the way i do things... please let me
>>know....
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Alex
>>> >
>>> >--- In mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
><donb@>
>>> >wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> The way it is *supposed* to work: The D2 uses GPS to determine its
>>> >location. The D2 passes that location to the modem.
>>> >>
>>> >> Frequently, particularly with old controllers, this is not happening.
>>> >When it doesn't happen, you can't range, simple as that.
>>> >>
>>> >> Bill recommended my DSAdmin for this, but it isn't the right program.
>>If
>>> >you can't get the D2 to pass the location (you can always hit search to
>>> >peak up, since it is right when you hit search that the location is
>>> >passed) then you need to do the same thing tripod users do. The program
>>> >for that is DSSatTool.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 6/14/2013 at 11:15 PM Alex wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >Finally able to get some info....
>>> >> >
>>> >> >  checked all the cables, seemed good to me...
>>> >> >
>>> >> >      Lat & Lon... it does not match "perfectly&quot; here is what i
>>have...
>>> >> >
>>> >> >        The Modem has a lat & Lon of 110.10/35.15, my actual is
>>> >> >116.54/32.50.... "I" would think that is close enough, but I dont
>>know
>>> >> >much as i thought the dish "searched"; for the satellite and once it
>>got
>>> >a
>>> >> >"ping"; it zeroed in and like magic your online...
>>> >> >
>>> >> >      also I have to manually enter the Mag compass heading as my
>>> >compass
>>> >> >is off also, but this has not been an issue till i got where i am at
>>> >now,
>>> >> >So Cal, San Diego area.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I am on 91W, have a F1/D2/HN7000S...
>>> >> >
>>> >> >    So what next? how do i manually enter the right lat/lon or is it
>>> >close
>>> >> >enough?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Alex
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >--- In mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com, "Don
>Bradner" <donb@>
>>> >> >wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> The only way to test the transmitter is to swap in another
>>known-good
>>> >> >transmitter.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> However: The transmitter is rarely bad with your symptoms.
>>Extremely
>>> >> >common is that the location wasn't passed to the modem from the D2,
>>so
>>> >it
>>> >> >can't range and can't transmit.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Next most common is a bad connector on one of the cables.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Least common is a bad transmitter.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> It you go to the advanced pages in the modem, under setup and then
>>> >> >configuration it will show you what it "thinks" your location is. It
>>> >will
>>> >> >be shown as VSAT longitude and latitude, in degrees and minutes.
>Does
>>> >that
>>> >> >match your real location?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On 6/4/2013 at 10:11 PM Alex wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >sorry wrong verbiage, i guess think that the "transmitter&quot;
>>assembly
>>> >> >might
>>> >> >> >be bad but dont know how to "test" it...
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Little help...
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Alex
>>> >> >> >--- In mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com,
>"idahojoat"
>>> ><idahojoat@>
>>> >> >> >wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> When i deploy my moto sat, I am getting a message 18 then after
>>a
>>> >> >time a
>>> >> >> >message 13 on the receiver side. i get a good signal. for awhile
>i
>>> >was
>>> >> >> >having to raise and lower the unit a couple of times to get
>>online,
>>> >then
>>> >> >> >it would get online. also it has be getting online for a short
>>> >period of
>>> >> >> >time then back to three lites and message 13....
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> I have a D2 controller, and am HN7000S Modem....
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> I think it might be the receiver but i dont how to test for
>>this...
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Thanks for any input in advance.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Alex
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >------------------------------------
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Don Bradner
>>> >> >> www.arcatapet.net
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >------------------------------------
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Don Bradner
>>> >> www.arcatapet.net
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >------------------------------------
>>> >
>>> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> Don Bradner
>>> www.arcatapet.net
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------------
>>
>>Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>Don Bradner
>www.arcatapet.net
>

>       
>
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>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Don Bradner
www.arcatapet.net

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Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:00 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Don Bradner" donbradner

I don't know about the can't be displayed, but log in over and over would mean that you aren't accepting cookies from the site.

On 7/20/2013 at 11:46 AM V Starkey wrote:

>It just tells me to log in again. Over and over again.
>Von
>Thanks

>
>
>________________________________
> From: Don Bradner <donb@arcatapet.com>
>To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:34 PM
>Subject: Re: [RVInternetBySatellite] Re: Acting up again....
>
>
>I need to know what message(s) you are getting.
>
>On 7/20/2013 at 11:18 AM V Starkey wrote:
>
>>Don, Have you blocked me again? Not able to log on and can not change map.
>>Thanks,
>>Von
>>�
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>> From: Don Bradner <donb@arcatapet.com>
>>To: RVInternetBySatellite@yahoogroups.com
>>Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 12:42 PM
>>Subject: Re: [RVInternetBySatellite] Re: Acting up again....
>> 
>>� 
>>
>>The transfer of location from the controller, when it works, occurs
>>immediately after you hit search.
>>
>>On 6/24/2013 at 4:37 PM Alex wrote:
>>
>>>Well thanks again to all that have helped... I hit "search" a few times
>>>and go figure, i am online for the first time in months in my "live in"
>>>RV... I wish i could understand what the problem was.
>>>  I know that the modem did not have the right "location";, but how does
>>>hitting search fix that? And why when i take the modem to my travel RV
>>>does it not have and issue and just works...?
>>>
>>>  Any information would be appreciated... Thanks again for all your
>help.
>>>
>>>Alex
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--- In mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
>><donb@...>
>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The controller either works correctly or it doesn't. You can't make it
>>>work correctly. It is entirely possible that it will work correctly most
>>>of the time, which is why I suggested just hitting search again. It is
>>>also possible that it has stopped working correctly completely. In the
>>>latter case you have two options: switch to your other controller, or
>>>manually set the position (DSSatTool).
>>>>
>>>> On 6/15/2013 at 3:07 PM Alex wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >OK i guess i am not quite understanding... How do i get the controller
>>>to
>>>> >tell the modem where i am at? when i use the modem in my other RV, the
>>>one
>>>> >i use for traveling, it works fine. in fact the last time i used it
>was
>>>> >just north of Holbrook AZ on the Navajo reservation over the memorial
>>>day
>>>> >weekend. I have two controllers, do i need to start moving a single
>>>> >controller with the modem now? the way i have been doing this is i
>have
>>>> >two complete systems, 2 F1 / 2 D2 controllers and 2 routers, i would
>>>just
>>>> >move the modem from one to the other depending on my needs and
>>>travels...
>>>> >sounds like i need to change the way i do things... please let me
>>>know....
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Alex
>>>> >
>>>> >--- In mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
>><donb@>
>>>> >wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The way it is *supposed* to work: The D2 uses GPS to determine its
>>>> >location. The D2 passes that location to the modem.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Frequently, particularly with old controllers, this is not
>happening.
>>>> >When it doesn't happen, you can't range, simple as that.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Bill recommended my DSAdmin for this, but it isn't the right
>program.
>>>If
>>>> >you can't get the D2 to pass the location (you can always hit search
>to
>>>> >peak up, since it is right when you hit search that the location is
>>>> >passed) then you need to do the same thing tripod users do. The
>program
>>>> >for that is DSSatTool.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 6/14/2013 at 11:15 PM Alex wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >Finally able to get some info....
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >  checked all the cables, seemed good to me...
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >      Lat & Lon... it does not match "perfectly&quot; here is what i
>>>have...
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >        The Modem has a lat & Lon of 110.10/35.15, my actual
>is
>>>> >> >116.54/32.50.... "I" would think that is close enough, but I dont
>>>know
>>>> >> >much as i thought the dish "searched"; for the satellite and once it
>>>got
>>>> >a
>>>> >> >"ping"; it zeroed in and like magic your online...
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >      also I have to manually enter the Mag compass heading as
>my
>>>> >compass
>>>> >> >is off also, but this has not been an issue till i got where i am
>at
>>>> >now,
>>>> >> >So Cal, San Diego area.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I am on 91W, have a F1/D2/HN7000S...
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >    So what next? how do i manually enter the right lat/lon or
>is it
>>>> >close
>>>> >> >enough?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Alex
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >--- In mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com, "Don
>>Bradner&quot; <donb@>
>>>> >> >wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> The only way to test the transmitter is to swap in another
>>>known-good
>>>> >> >transmitter.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> However: The transmitter is rarely bad with your symptoms.
>>>Extremely
>>>> >> >common is that the location wasn't passed to the modem from the D2,
>>>so
>>>> >it
>>>> >> >can't range and can't transmit.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Next most common is a bad connector on one of the cables.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Least common is a bad transmitter.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> It you go to the advanced pages in the modem, under setup and
>then
>>>> >> >configuration it will show you what it "thinks" your location is.
>It
>>>> >will
>>>> >> >be shown as VSAT longitude and latitude, in degrees and minutes.
>>Does
>>>> >that
>>>> >> >match your real location?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On 6/4/2013 at 10:11 PM Alex wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >sorry wrong verbiage, i guess think that the "transmitter&quot;
>>>assembly
>>>> >> >might
>>>> >> >> >be bad but dont know how to "test" it...
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >Little help...
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >Alex
>>>> >> >> >--- In mailto:RVInternetBySatellite%40yahoogroups.com,
>>"idahojoat"
>>>> ><idahojoat@>
>>>> >> >> >wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> When i deploy my moto sat, I am getting a message 18 then
>after
>>>a
>>>> >> >time a
>>>> >> >> >message 13 on the receiver side. i get a good signal. for awhile
>>i
>>>> >was
>>>> >> >> >having to raise and lower the unit a couple of times to get
>>>online,
>>>> >then
>>>> >> >> >it would get online. also it has be getting online for a short
>>>> >period of
>>>> >> >> >time then back to three lites and message 13....
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> I have a D2 controller, and am HN7000S Modem....
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> I think it might be the receiver but i dont how to test for
>>>this...
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Thanks for any input in advance.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Alex
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >------------------------------------
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Don Bradner
>>>> >> >> www.arcatapet.net
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >------------------------------------
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Don Bradner
>>>> >> www.arcatapet.net
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >------------------------------------
>>>> >
>>>> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Don Bradner
>>>> www.arcatapet.net
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>------------------------------------
>>>
>>>Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Don Bradner
>>www.arcatapet.net
>>
>> 
>>       
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------------
>>
>>Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>Don Bradner
>www.arcatapet.net
>
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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>Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>

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www.arcatapet.net

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