All Answers: Re: [pakgrid] Re: Feasibility Study required for Bio Gas Plant & Solar Power plant (1 MWh)

Dear All,

aoa,

In Agriculture sector, as Punjab Govt is also going for Solar pumps, I have seen these are working very successfully. I have seen one at BARI which they installed about 13 years ago and it is still functional. 1-1/2" output keeps filling the tank thru out the day, as we have plenty of sun, and they can use this water through their laid out channels to irrigate their plots.

In an exhibition last October, in Islamabad, I saw there were number of stalls relating to solar products and they included solar water pumps. Although the initial cost is higher, (about 5 Lac Rupees for lifting water from 300' below) but that evens out well even in one year or so for raised fuel costs. I have heard people getting installed these solar pumps at their agri-farms, I have seen it working at Izhaar farms, Talagang as well. I am not sure of complete technical details, probably they are using DC motors to save on DC-AC conversion losses.

Regards

afzal

On 10 July 2013 13:01, Sulaiman <driving_seat@hotmail.com> wrote:

Asalam o Aliekum Umair,
You might want to try Concentrated Solar Power instead of going for PV cells. This technology can be made locally just a bit of commitment is required. I am pasting a paragraph from Wikipedia

Concentrated solar power (also called concentrating solar power, concentrated solar thermal, and CSP) systems use mirrors or lenses to concentrate a large area of sunlight, or solar thermal energy, onto a small area. Electrical power is produced when the concentrated light is converted to heat, which drives a heat engine (usually a steam turbine) connected to an electrical power generator.
Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentrated_solar_power
Date seen: 10-July-2013

I've had done my FYP on this and would like to develop it further. My Project report can be seen on Slide Share:

www.slideshare.net/sulaimandawood/solar-report3ý

If you've any questions regard this, please feel free to contact.

Kind Regards
Sulaiman Dawood Barry
Co founder of Askproblems.com

--- In pakgrid@yahoogroups.com, "Ahsan Raza Sattar" <ahsan_raza@...> wrote:
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> We are going to install on grid solar power plant will synch with wapda and generators the total capacity of the plant is about 3.8 MWatt the unit cost is about more than 200 if some want any help or data most welcome
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> From: pakgrid@yahoogroups.com [mailto:pakgrid@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ISHTIAQ AHMAD
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> Subject: Re: [pakgrid] Feasibility Study required for Bio Gas Plant & Solar Power plant (1 MWh)
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> Nice catch Mufti sahib,
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> Reason is not technology failure neither it put question mark on viability of solar solution.
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> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-02/suntech-unit-bankruptcy-had-roots-in-deadbeat-customers.html
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> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Asif Mufti <anmufti@...> wrote:
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> Few months back the Chinese behemoth in solar energy SUNTECH declared bankruptcy. Despite Chinese Government financial backing it failed. I seriously question the wisdom of using Solar Energy as a viable option. SUNTECH is in business again but after Chinese government dumped more money into. The analyst projection is that would need to inject more money soon.
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> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Muhammad <umair060_tuf@...> wrote:
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> As demand of of energy is increasing day by day and also shortage of power in pakistan and loadshedding hours are more in village areas than city. I belong to one village of Rahim Yar Khan. Our village people facing many problems on due to electricity and 2nd best source of water for agriculture purpose.
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> I want to give them best alternative of renewable energy source which can run one or two water tubewells and also meet their domestic electricity needs.
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> Their only income source is agriculture but our government frustrated them for not giving them access water to feed their crops.
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> Kindly suggest me and give your inputs to solve the problem of our poor village peoples.
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> I have two options whether to go on solar energy or on Bio gas plant but I think initial cost of solar is very high, so suggest me which option will be feasible ?
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> I need complete feasibility study for both options compared with heavy fuel or diesel and WAPDA.
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> I know that here all peoples are engineers, professors, professionals and practitioners and consultants also. So purpose of this discussion is to find out the optimum solution. I hope that all will participate and give their valuable inputs .
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> Here I put some queries which will help me to evaluate the best ones.
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> I need solution for ( 1 MWH) energy initially ?
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> Total initial cost for this project ?
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> What will be Payback period for each one option?
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> Supplier name if any one know ?
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> Your earliest response will be highly appreciated.
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> Thanking You
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