Tuesday, 5 March 2013

[bs-telecom] Digest Number 2017[1 Attachment]

15 New Messages

Digest #2017
1a
2a
Re: Help || Exchange Server 2010 by "rehan yaqoob" rehany_2003
4a
Re: Query|| Measuring CIR Bandwidth by "Faizan mehboob" faizanmehboob
5a
Re: Job || MW/ BSS Experts by "sayed zubair daimi" zubair_a2z
5b
Re: Job || MW/ BSS Experts by "ADNAN NAZIR" rsun19
7
Sharing || How to find a Job in Telecom Sector? by "Adil Sheraz" adilsheraz@rocketmail.com
8a
Sharing || List of Telecom SubContractors in Pakistan by "Adil Sheraz" adilsheraz@rocketmail.com
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Messages

Tue Mar 5, 2013 7:38 am (PST) . Posted by:

"TANVEER ALI" tanveerali880

http://www.nip.gov.pk/

U can apply on line.....Last date is 31 December of every year

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Sarah Javed heliotrope_iris@yahoo.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> hi every1....... can someone please tell me about the (NIP) program... is
> it still open and offering internships? how to apply for it?
>
>
>

Tue Mar 5, 2013 7:39 am (PST) . Posted by:

"rehan yaqoob" rehany_2003

Click the link as below

 http://www.itinfoclick.com/?p=4
 
 
Thanks & Regards
(REHAN YAQOOB)
-------------------------------------------------

Email:- rehany_2003@yahoo.com

________________________________
From: siraj abid siraj_abid12@hotmail.com>
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013 3:22 PM
Subject: RE: [bs-telecom] Help || Exchange Server 2010


 
Dear

 
Check out in Server Manager  "WinRM IIS Extensions" are installed. If not then install it.        If its already there :
1. Uninstall it and Install it again.
2. Run "WinRM Quickconfig".Install it again.
2. Run "WinRM Quickconfig".

***************************
 
Run the WinRM Quickconfig and it wil make some changes so; WinRM will be set up to receive requests on this machine and for remote management.

Siraj

 

________________________________
To:
From: mnauman@live.com
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 10:47:18 +0500
Subject: [bs-telecom] Help || Exchange Server 2010

 
Dear Members,

 
I updated Windows Server 2008r2 by windows update service then by completing the pre-requisites  I freshly installed Exchange server 2010 on windows server 2008r2 . My II7 on Windows server 2008r2 is not opening default II7 page. And also when I start Exchange Server 2010 Management console it is gives message "Initialization Failed " with following detail:
 
Connecting to remote server failed with the following error message: The WinRM client received an HTTP server error status (500), but the remote service did not include any other information about the cause of the failure. For more information, see the about_Remote_Troubleshooting Help topic
 
PLEASE HELP ME OUT
 
 
Regards,
 

Tue Mar 5, 2013 7:39 am (PST) . Posted by:

"UBAIR KHAN" unfurl_die

 good  i gave their interview last week but no call till today.and they give no specific time for it 
Can you help me on it?

________________________________
From: sm haq smhaq2001@gmail.com>
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || Salary of Telecard Fresh Network engineer


 
yes it's true my friend is working in telecard and he find another part time or full time job due to salary reason not give payment on time.and not give any bonus

and telecard  work only World call  project i hope you know the scope of world call.

Tue Mar 5, 2013 10:15 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Shan Seehar" shan_seehar

who was the interviewer?
It may take 1-2 weeks if they are interested to hire u.
Telecard, though not a leading name in telecom industry anymore, is a good place in terms of learning and environment is really good. Specially LDI department offers a lot of learning in scope with the LDI job market for further opportunities. While GOCDMA has well passed its prime. Its present is questionable and future seems very uncertain.

Hope it helps

S Seehar

To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
From: unfurl_die@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 03:30:05 -0800
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || Salary of Telecard Fresh Network engineer


good i gave their interview last week but no call till today.and they give no specific time for it Can you help me on it?
From: sm haq smhaq2001@gmail.com>
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 3,
2013 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || Salary of Telecard Fresh Network engineer


yes it's true my friend is working in telecard and he find another part time or full time job due to salary reason not give payment on time.and not give any bonus

and telecard work only World call project i hope you know the scope of world call.





Tue Mar 5, 2013 7:40 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Faizan mehboob" faizanmehboob

Dear Irtiqa,
One solution would be to follow what sajid sb said, the other one would be to install ISA server and configure bandwidth with your needs as you have mentioned to have 8 users sometimes.

Regards,
Faizan

________________________________
From: nabeel saleem nabeel_faranian@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2013 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query|| Measuring CIR Bandwidth


 

Dear Irtiqa,

How much CIR you are gaining now and by the way which kind of link you are using? DSL????

regards

Nabeel

________________________________
From: Sajid Arain sajidarain99@yahoo.com>
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Cc: irtiqa_ali@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2013 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query|| Measuring CIR Bandwidth


 
Dear Irtiqa, 

Monitor bandwidth (MRTG/ PRTG/ Cacti) graph provided by ISP. It will show your actual usage of bandwidth. 

Sajid Arain
--- On Wed, 27/2/13, Syed Irtiqa Ali irtiqa_ali@yahoo.com> wrote:

>From: Syed Irtiqa Ali irtiqa_ali@yahoo.com>
>Subject: [bs-telecom] Query|| Measuring CIR Bandwidth
>To: "BS Group Yahoo" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
>Received: Wednesday, 27 February, 2013, 4:31 AM
>
>
> 
>Dear Members & IT Gurus,
>
>
>Hope everything is fine at your end, Please if you can guide me how to measure CIR bandwidth as I have 8 users some times one with 2MB CIR connection but speed dosen't looks like 2MB CIR and ISP always says its 2 MB CIR. 
>
>
>But I don't beleive them they have already charged me, a huge amount on this connection 800 Thousand PKR.  :-(
>
>
>www.speedtest.net dosen't works for CIR it gives me 8Mb or like that speed or displays errors.
>
>
>Would appreciate for quick help. 
> 
>Regards,
>
>
>Syed Irtiqa Ali
>GSM +92-345-5558984
>
>Founder BS-Telecom Group Yahoo.

Tue Mar 5, 2013 7:41 am (PST) . Posted by:

"sayed zubair daimi" zubair_a2z

Where is the requirement,

________________________________
From: Sami Ghersheen samighersheen@gmail.com>
To: zumbeel@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Wirexhibit@yahoogroups.com; bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 4 March 2013 12:37 PM
Subject: [bs-telecom] Job || MW/ BSS Experts


 
Dears

    I'm urgently looking for MW/BSS Huawei &
ZTE equipment specialist; engineers, technicians, riggers for a Swap
& roll out project, The candidate should be expert in the mention
Vendors. send your CV to sami.ghershin@gmail.com

Regards
Muhammad Sami

Tue Mar 5, 2013 10:14 am (PST) . Posted by:

"ADNAN NAZIR" rsun19

Place and company name?
 
Engr. Adnan Nazir
Transmission Engineer
ZTE Pakistan

Tue Mar 5, 2013 7:41 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Sidra Fahim" sidra_te42

Is its online registration  closed?? By faar i couldn't find  any link for online registration..

________________________________
From: Roheel Nawaz roheelnawaz@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] QUERY || National internship program (NIP)


 
Dear Recepient

Hi, yes u may apply if u belong toother province other than metioned  Federal Regions(ICT,FATA,GILGIT,BALTISTAN,and AJK). . 800 candidates are to be selected. 25% seats arefixed for Non Federal Regions()Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan etc. Just go the website www.nip.gov.pk, and apply online. You will a confirmation email 1 or 2 days latter for your confirmation of registration.

Regards 
Roheel

________________________________
From: Sarah Javed heliotrope_iris@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 4:45 PM
Subject: [bs-telecom] QUERY || National internship program (NIP)


 
hi, can someone please tell me if NIP program is still on and offering internships to the graduates? 
I checked this site 'www.nip.gov.pk' and it is written that it is for  Federal Regions(ICT,FATA,GILGIT,BALTISTAN,and AJK). 
can people belonging to other provinces apply for it? if yes thn plz i want to know the procedure.

thanks.
Sarah.

Tue Mar 5, 2013 7:42 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Adil Sheraz" adilsheraz@rocketmail.com

By M. Safi Ur Rehman
Like any other bright students in universities, I was also filled
with this impression that I will get graduated with B.Eng in Telecom and will be swimmingly hired by a well-known operator of the country with
handsome salary in addition to tons of facilities and luxuries.
However, this didn't happen. After graduation, I, and almost every
class mate of mine, hunted for the job that we had dreamt for. But all
efforts turned unsuccessful and we were left with this question only,
which most of the Telecom Engineers ask for: "How to Find A Job in
Telecom?"
Here is the truth: there are no Jobs in Telecom sector for fresh
graduates with no references. You don't need a hi-fi GPA or anything to
grab a job. All you need is a good healthy reference or you will end up
finding it hard to get even the unpaid internship.
Pathetic?? Yes it is. And sorry for being too blunt, but that's the
real ground situation, which I am sharing with you only after
experiencing it.
If there are no Jobs (for fresh grads without any reference) then how to survive in Telecom market? How to get the job after all? Before I
tell you that, let's go through some useful information regarding
telecom sector which wasn't shared with us before we started our job
hunt.
Telecom sector is divided into three categories.
1 – Operator:
We have five operators:
* UFone,
* Telenor,
* Zong,
* Warid,
* Mobilink
2  – Vendors:
 
Operators hire a (network) vendor to build and maintain their
Networks. Which means that vendors install the telecom equipment on the
operator's cell sites. List of vendors, which are working in Pakistan is given below:
* Huawei
* ZTE
* Nokia Siemens Network (NSN)
* Ericsson
* Motorola
* Alcatel
Just to let you know, some operators use services of more than one vendor to keep their networking running.
3 – Sub-cons:
Vendors hire sub-cons to do majority of tasks, such as right now
Huawei is installing Microwave Links on Zong sites and they have hired
Netkom, EESPAK and Tier-4 for this project.
Similarly a vendor hires a sub-con for other specific projects, such
as fueling the sites, operations & maintenance of sites, any
equipment installation on sites, Microwave surveys, etc.
There are dozens of sub contractors working in Pakistan, but below is the list of major sub-cons operating in Pakistan:
* Netkom
* Tier-4
* AceWorks
* Celeros
* Dancom
* Turno Tech
* Teleways
* F&D
* Interses
* Hi-Rise
* Enercom
* EESPAK
* EPTSC
* Mobi Serve
* FIST
* Vital
* Hitech
* Apollo Telecom
* MySon
* And many others.
Operators and vendors pay well as compared to the sub-cons. Most of
the sub-cons do not pay their employees on monthly basis; they hire an
Engineer for Rs. 10,000 per month or maybe even less than that and they
pay salaries after 3-4 months. By this, I don't mean that all sub-cons
are bad – but they largely delay salaries.
Now let's come back to the real question again: How to find a Job?
If you have strong references then you can get Job easily – in such a case (when you gave got a healthy reference) you must try landing into
an operator, or vendor at least.
In other case, if you don't know any big gun then stop dreaming. Try
to be realistic and start your career with a sub-con. Get some
experience from there, build good relations and then apply in
Vendor/Operator.
Finding a Job in a sub-con would be relatively easy. Visit all the
sub-cons personally and drop your CV there. Keep following them up and
don't loose hope. Follow up is really important, keep visiting them
again and again until they offer you a job.
Join a sub-con with a learning attitude and not for earning money,
because 10K-20K isn't the kind of money that a Engineer deserves. Learn
every possible thing that you can. Stay in touch with your seniors, they can be helpful in upcoming days.
The key point to survive in telecom is reference, make them hard and
strong because in telecom industry jobs are not advertised on career
portals, instead they are shouted out to friends and colleagues through
e-mails.
If you are already doing an unpaid internship or job, don't quit it
even if you are not satisfied or even if they are not paying you. Keep
doing this job to get the professional experience and the day will come
when you will be rewarded for your struggle.
I will suggest that don't wait for a miracle to happen. You have to
struggle by yourself to make your place in Telecom, and struggle with
the motto of "Ithy Rakh Sada Haq… ".
Writer is an ex-student of NUML Telecom Engineering 3rd Batch. Right now he is working as a Transmission Engineer in a Sub-Con.

Tue Mar 5, 2013 7:43 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Adil Sheraz" adilsheraz@rocketmail.com

By Khurram Ahmed

Many fresh graduates from Telecom universities don't know huge range
of sub-contractors in Pakistan, neither there is any list available,
combining their contact information and other details. hence they end up dropping their CVs only at major infrastructure vendors. And you may
know that these subcons hire engineers without advertising jobs or
through references. So its extremely important to reach them yourself.

Today I am providing you a list that will serve best for students,
telecom professionals and infrastructure vendors too. I got this list
from a Yahoo Forum.
This list has handful amount of subcontractors in Pakistan, with their contact information, details and even emails.
Download the attachment..........

Regards
Adil Sheraz
Attachments with this message:
1 of 1 File(s)

Tue Mar 5, 2013 10:32 am (PST) . Posted by:

"faheem memon danish" thristy_danish



Really good work Adil !!

________________________________
From: Adil Sheraz adilsheraz@rocketmail.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 7:09 AM
Subject: [bs-telecom] Sharing || List of Telecom SubContractors in Pakistan [1 Attachment]


 
[Attachment(s) from Adil Sheraz included below]
By Khurram Ahmed

Many fresh graduates from Telecom universities don̢۪t know huge range
of sub-contractors in Pakistan, neither there is any list available,
combining their contact information and other details. hence they end up dropping their CVs only at major infrastructure vendors. And you may
know that these subcons hire engineers without advertising jobs or
through references. So its extremely important to reach them yourself.

Today I am providing you a list that will serve best for students,
telecom professionals and infrastructure vendors too. I got this list
from a Yahoo Forum.
This list has handful amount of subcontractors in Pakistan, with their contact information, details and even emails.
Download the attachment..........

Regards
Adil Sheraz

Tue Mar 5, 2013 7:45 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Farhan" farhan_fasto


Apply Online

1) System Administrator .
2) Network Administrator 
3) System Support Executive 

Regards,
Farhan

Tue Mar 5, 2013 10:16 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Farhan" farhan_fasto

Various vacancies for IT Graduates
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IT
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Microsoft
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Network
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Qualification: IT Graduate (Preferably Masters).Certification: LINUX
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Network
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Qualification: BS Computer Science/Engineering.Experience: 0-1 year.Job
Descriptopn: &

Network
Administrator
Network AdministratorLast Date: Tuesday, March 05,
2013Degree :  BS (Computer Science)/ MCSExperience: 03-04 yearsSkills :
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Network
Administrator
Configure, troubleshoot and support IT
hardware/software for Linux and Windows environments. Apply at Rozee.pk

Network
Administrator (BPS-17)
Qualification: Master in Computer
Science/Engineering.Certification: CCNP/CCSP is preferred.Age: 25-35Experience:
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System
Support Executive
Qualification: BS/BE in Computer
Science/Engineering.Experience: 0 -2 Years (Fresh may also apply)Skills:
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Network
Administrator
Qualification: BS/BE in Computer
Science/Engineering.Certification: CCNP/CCSP is preferred.Experience: 2+
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Administrator
Qualification: BS/BE in Computer
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Regards,
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Tue Mar 5, 2013 10:31 am (PST) . Posted by:

"faheem memon danish" thristy_danish

Dear usman 

send me your resume at faheem_danish@hotmail.com 

faheem 

________________________________
From: faheem memon danish thristy_danish@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How can I get internship or training in Teleco Operator


Dear usman 

send me your resume. 

Faheem

________________________________
From: Nasir Ahmad nasirahmad_795@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How can I get internship or training in Teleco Operator


 
there are many subcons of zte/huawei like relacom, netcom, greentech, etc. in all major cities of pakistan
 
nasir4techworld

________________________________
From: Mohammad Ahmed engr.ahmed84@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2013 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How can I get internship or training in Teleco Operator


 
Dear Usman,

I also think its a good idea. Learn any programming language like ASP.NET, SQL e.t.c. Get certification and then you can apply for job in any software house. These languages especially ASP.NET has good scope in Pakistan and abroad.

Regards
Mohammad Ahmed

________________________________
From: Abdul Hafeez abdulhafeez_heat@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How can I get internship or training in Teleco Operator


 
Dear Usman Khalid, 

Please don't loose hope it happens to everyone nowadays. One big reason is that the telecom sector is quite saturated and unfortunately due to lack of R and D there is not much professional growth in telecom sector in Pakistan. The operators are just service providers providing GSM services only. Unfortunately, after working in any operator like Mobilink or Telenor you won't gain much out of it. In case, if you would like to move abroad after sometimes then with the operator's experience , this won't help you because we are not up to date with the technology trends and other people would demand for the skills related to the equipment which they are using. 

I strongly recommend you to apply for the jobs related to software/hardware development. There are a lot of software houses who work on telecommunication projects. The projects are mostly related to software development of either any architecture or it could something related to image processing which involves development of codecs etc. As, there are a lot of outsourced companies from USA and Europe who are working here and developing different products. You should target those companies and believe me you will get a job in one month because they always need people and the scope of development is quite big. Moreover, people from these software houses have the possibilities to work abroad because they normally work on latest products and trends. A lot of companies have skill shortage issue in the area of IT so it will be really good for your professional career. 

I am just saying all this on behalf of my personal experience. I am also a telecom graduate moreover I have done masters as well. People are saying absolutely right that without reference/sifarish/pawa you can't get in because of this saturated market. I started doing a job in one of the software house and now I am receving much more positive responses even from Abroad. So, I wish you all the best and success for your future. 

Regards
Abdul Hafeez

________________________________
Von: "@li khan" ali_khan1118@yahoo.com>
An: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Gesendet: 18:21 Montag, 25.Februar 2013
Betreff: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How can I get internship or training in Teleco Operator


 

Dear Usman khalid, to be very honest with you in Pakistan there is no way of getting entry in telecom sector for fresh graduates with out strong reference. I would recommend you to search for it because no one is going to call you with out it. I know many professionals in this group will not going to agree with my statement but being a fresh i have also faced the same. This is my sincere advice to you else it's up to you.

________________________________
From: MB smurtaza81pk@yahoo.com>
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Cc: charmingsmilepk@yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, 22 February 2013 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How can I get internship or training in Teleco Operator


 
Vendor experience is useful and acceptable globally whereas operator experience is applicable only locally.

--- On Thu, 2/21/13, Umer Dilshad umer_dilshad@yahoo.com> wrote:

>From: Umer Dilshad umer_dilshad@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How can I get internship or training in Teleco Operator
>To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Thursday, February 21, 2013, 10:46 AM
>
>
> 
>Rather than trying for telco operators, at entry level, you should search out for telco vendors as they pick up fresh graduates for every project.
>
>e.g; huawei; lcc; 360-cellutions; etc.
>
>--- On Mon, 2/18/13, Usman charmingsmilepk@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Usman charmingsmilepk@yahoo.com>
>>Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || How can I get internship or training in Teleco Operator
>>To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
>>Date: Monday, February 18, 2013, 9:02 AM
>>
>>
>> 
>>As'lamualikum
>>
>>
>>Dear members,
>>I am interested to get training or internship in Telco Operator in RF optimization sector. Please advise me how can I get internship. I am fresh graduate and no one is considering me as an intern. 
>>
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>Usman khalid
>>BE(Telecom)
>>Karachi

Tue Mar 5, 2013 10:32 am (PST) . Posted by:

"faheem memon danish" thristy_danish

Dear usman 

send me your resume. 

Faheem

________________________________
From: Nasir Ahmad nasirahmad_795@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How can I get internship or training in Teleco Operator


 
there are many subcons of zte/huawei like relacom, netcom, greentech, etc. in all major cities of pakistan
 
nasir4techworld

________________________________
From: Mohammad Ahmed engr.ahmed84@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2013 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How can I get internship or training in Teleco Operator


 
Dear Usman,

I also think its a good idea. Learn any programming language like ASP.NET, SQL e.t.c. Get certification and then you can apply for job in any software house. These languages especially ASP.NET has good scope in Pakistan and abroad.

Regards
Mohammad Ahmed

________________________________
From: Abdul Hafeez abdulhafeez_heat@yahoo.com>
To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How can I get internship or training in Teleco Operator


 
Dear Usman Khalid, 

Please don't loose hope it happens to everyone nowadays. One big reason is that the telecom sector is quite saturated and unfortunately due to lack of R and D there is not much professional growth in telecom sector in Pakistan. The operators are just service providers providing GSM services only. Unfortunately, after working in any operator like Mobilink or Telenor you won't gain much out of it. In case, if you would like to move abroad after sometimes then with the operator's experience , this won't help you because we are not up to date with the technology trends and other people would demand for the skills related to the equipment which they are using. 

I strongly recommend you to apply for the jobs related to software/hardware development. There are a lot of software houses who work on telecommunication projects. The projects are mostly related to software development of either any architecture or it could something related to image processing which involves development of codecs etc. As, there are a lot of outsourced companies from USA and Europe who are working here and developing different products. You should target those companies and believe me you will get a job in one month because they always need people and the scope of development is quite big. Moreover, people from these software houses have the possibilities to work abroad because they normally work on latest products and trends. A lot of companies have skill shortage issue in the area of IT so it will be really good for your professional career. 

I am just saying all this on behalf of my personal experience. I am also a telecom graduate moreover I have done masters as well. People are saying absolutely right that without reference/sifarish/pawa you can't get in because of this saturated market. I started doing a job in one of the software house and now I am receving much more positive responses even from Abroad. So, I wish you all the best and success for your future. 

Regards
Abdul Hafeez

________________________________
Von: "@li khan" ali_khan1118@yahoo.com>
An: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
Gesendet: 18:21 Montag, 25.Februar 2013
Betreff: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How can I get internship or training in Teleco Operator


 

Dear Usman khalid, to be very honest with you in Pakistan there is no way of getting entry in telecom sector for fresh graduates with out strong reference. I would recommend you to search for it because no one is going to call you with out it. I know many professionals in this group will not going to agree with my statement but being a fresh i have also faced the same. This is my sincere advice to you else it's up to you.

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From: MB smurtaza81pk@yahoo.com>
To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
Cc: charmingsmilepk@yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, 22 February 2013 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How can I get internship or training in Teleco Operator


 
Vendor experience is useful and acceptable globally whereas operator experience is applicable only locally.

--- On Thu, 2/21/13, Umer Dilshad umer_dilshad@yahoo.com> wrote:

>From: Umer Dilshad umer_dilshad@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [bs-telecom] Query || How can I get internship or training in Teleco Operator
>To: bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Thursday, February 21, 2013, 10:46 AM
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> 
>Rather than trying for telco operators, at entry level, you should search out for telco vendors as they pick up fresh graduates for every project.
>
>e.g; huawei; lcc; 360-cellutions; etc.
>
>--- On Mon, 2/18/13, Usman charmingsmilepk@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
>>From: Usman charmingsmilepk@yahoo.com>
>>Subject: [bs-telecom] Query || How can I get internship or training in Teleco Operator
>>To: "bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com" bs-telecom@yahoogroups.com>
>>Date: Monday, February 18, 2013, 9:02 AM
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>> 
>>As'lamualikum
>>
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>>Dear members,
>>I am interested to get training or internship in Telco Operator in RF optimization sector. Please advise me how can I get internship. I am fresh graduate and no one is considering me as an intern. 
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>>Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>Usman khalid
>>BE(Telecom)
>>Karachi

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